Oh my Oh, look at that. Crazy. What is this thing, Charlie? Oh my god. dreamed about OH MY GOD. IT'S a cop. >> Oh my goodness. It's a silver cop. It's Avery L. I see it right there. IT'S AN AVERY L. OH, WOW. OH, IS THAT IT? It is. A CUT AVERY L. >> [cheering] >> WELL, THAT IS A NICE COPPER COIN, but oh, oh, Doug, do you know what time it is? Uh 45 up. Who says 45 up, Doug? It's quarter after. >> [music] [music] >> What's up, guys? Quarter Hour here, and welcome to a super spectacular mega Quarter Hour live show. Uh we've got some amazing guests coming on tonight. Justin Posey, the man behind the uh Forrest Fenn Netflix series that you probably all have seen at this point. He also started his own treasure hunt book, uh Beyond the Map's Edge, where he's hid his own treasure worth like over a million dollars. I got pictures of some of the crazy things. It's still going on. It's out there somewhere. So, you buy the book, you try to solve the clues and puzzles and riddles and poems, and maybe you'll just be the next big millionaire. Uh we're also going to be joined by Emma from Treasure Hunt With Us, who runs a YouTube channel. On her channel, she brings on guests and other treasure finders and hiders, and they try to put together the pieces and see what's going on in the community, all the clues and gathered in one place. So, she's also going to be liaison with Justin. They're doing an amazing huge uh uh event coming up in Arizona called the Secret Summit. We're going to talk about that. And we've got so many prizes, my head is spinning. There's at least six giveaways we're doing tonight. We're probably going to add more. So, hang in there, Doug. It's going to be a long, fun, exciting night. Now, let me bring in uh Mr. Dog Tag Doug first, real quick. Doggy, how are you, sir? Good. How are you doing tonight? I'm living the dream, Doug. I'm going to say a couple quick hellos, but we've got so much to cover. Uh so, I will come back to the chat. Uh I want to say thank you to the moderators who are here, because we're going to need some help tonight. I see a metal detectorist. Bree is here. Thank you very much, Bree. Always uh very helpful. Chris Wicked Digga, one of my good metal detecting buddies from up north. Thank you, Chris, for being here. Uh Teresa the Treasure Hunter is here. Teresa always super good and helpful. And Alicia Hot Mess Fishing also. Uh thank you, everyone, for showing up. It's going to be an action-packed night. Uh Doug, let me get into um a little bit of what's going on tonight. But but first, before I get into the treasure, I do have to do a real quick shout-out to uh our friend Lindiana Jones, Doug. Um you know, she travels >> Every Is she here? Yes. >> Every weekend Lynn travels, and even though this is a super busy show, I want to give her her shout-out. Uh this weekend Lynn will be in the uh the antique show in Elverson, Pennsylvania. I've never been there, never heard of it until she told me about it. It's not that far from us. It's not? Yeah, if you've never seen Lynn, Lynn sets up her incredible Pilgrim Era antiques all around the country. Uh and we invite viewers to go out and meet her. You can not only check out her one-of-a-kind antiques that going back to the 1600s and colonial times. But if you go up to Lynn, you can also get your picture taken, and sometimes we have gifts to give out. Uh this past show, she was out last weekend, she met this guy, his name was Ed, who's actually starting a YouTube channel inspired by us, Doug. He's going to call it Whispers of the Past. But he got to meet up with Lynn, so shout-out to Ed. And she also met this gentleman named Walter, who uh I think Lynn ran out of uh giveaway pictures, Doug. The signed pictures. We're going to take some more. So, uh I just wanted to say thank you, and if anybody out there lives anywhere near the Honey Brook, Pennsylvania area, she'll be there this weekend, Saturday and Sunday. You can pause the show, take a snapshot. You can draw it on a piece of paper, whatever you got to do to remember, and get out there and uh check out Lynn and some really cool antiques. So, there's number one, Doug. Got to get that uh got to get that in for Lynn. Right. Do love Lynn. Now, for the prizes tonight, Doug, we've got so many giveaways, and I'm going to I'm I'm let a little spoiler out. I'm going to give the first one away in like 5 minutes. I I usually save them all to the end. I'm not doing it this week. We're going to sprinkle them all throughout the show. >> Keep everybody engaged. >> That's right. I want everybody in. So, I'm going to bring up the banner. If you want to get in the giveaways, you can type in #treasure. It's scrolling at the bottom. #treasure. I'm going to use the same hashtag for all the giveaways, makes it easier. I'm going to do the first one in a few minutes. Now, listen, I'm Here's the caveat, and I know people hate this, and I'm sorry, but it's how life works. There's always a catch. There is, unfortunately. Any physical prize, detector, pinpointers, all the physical stuff, you have to live in in the United States of America. I know that stinks for my international friends, but the cost to mail things, and the people that are doing this, you know, their budgets are small. It's literally like $70 to mail a a pinpointer or a detector to another country. Yeah. So, if uh if an international person wins a physical prize, um unfortunately, we'll have to draw again. I'll try to make it up to you in some other way. We are giving away tickets to the mega event coming up the end of this month. If you're international and you win that, you're welcome to it. Hopefully, you can get there in time. But that, you know, not as tangible, we can hand that out, and you will win win that. So, uh just wanted to get it out there. I do see it's tabulating. Like I said, we're going to give the first prize away in a minute. Let me bring up the prizes, Doug. We've got a lot, and I want to thank some of the show sponsors for tonight for donating some of the prizes. Uh first, we have the uh AccuPoint pinpointer, which I was going to say we use every single week, but Mark from Nokta, and these prizes are donated from Nokta, Mark messaged me yesterday and said, "Hey, what's up with Doug not using the AccuPoint?" And he sent me a screenshot of this week's video. So, uh Doug, I don't know what's up with you not using the AccuPoint, but um we're going to have to get you one, because uh Mark Mark was almost crying over the phone. Well, I don't want to see Mark cry, so um it'll be in all the videos henceforth. There we go. Uh but the Nokta AccuPoint pinpointer, waterproof, completely submersible, syncs into the wireless headphones, the Bluetooth headphones, uh multi-toned, uh flashlight, 360 tip, the tips are replaceable, USB USB-C rechargeable, all the bells and whistles. We're going to be giving that away in probably like 3 minutes. So, make sure you put tre #treasure in the chat to be eligible for that. Nokta also is giving away a completely submersible Pulse Dive pinpointer with the 8-in scuba coil. This thing can go down to 200 ft deep, Doug. You could dive the Titanic and detect for whatever they lost at the Titanic, if the Titanic's less than 200 ft deep. I I was just GOING TO I'M NOT REALLY SURE HOW I'VE NEVER I'VE NEVER BEEN THERE PERSONALLY. Miles down. Is that what it is? All right. All right. Well, you can bring the Pulse Dive, but it might explode on you. Okay. Uh but this also has all these bells and whistles. Uh the tip can come off, you can use it as a regular dirt detector or in the water. It's like a 200 some dollar value. We're going to give that away today. Um we're also giving away uh the Find X Pro, um which is They market it as a beginner detector. It's really an amazing little machine. >> Sophisticated for beginners. It is. It's completely uh waterproof, also. Um and it comes with um the carry bag, it comes with headphones, it comes with the premium hand digger, uh everything you're going to need, another 200 some dollar value. We're going to be giving one of those away. Again, courtesy of our good friends at Nokta detectors. Uh and then Ryan from another channel sponsor, metaldetectingshop.com, he got in on the action and is giving away a triple score pro pack bundle. And Doug, you know I did a whole video tutorial on this machine from top to bottom. It's one of the best machines out there. It's like over 500 bucks. We're going to be giving one of those today. And the triple score pro pack bundle comes with uh the detector itself, two different double D search coils, and those are expensive on their own, and Bluetooth low latency headphones, a whole incredible package. We're going to be giving that away tonight. And then, of course, Emma and Justin are giving away four tickets to the Secret Summit event coming up in 2 weeks. I'm going to give those away in pairs. So, I'll give away two to one winner, two to another winner, so you can come with a guest. And I have a feeling, Doug, over the course of the show, there might be even more things added. Uh don't quote me on that. Okay. >> But I think I think so. So, again, you have to live in the United States of America. And when I do the drawing, which is going to look something like um I'm going to bring it up right now cuz we're going to do one in in in 2 seconds. Let me bring this up. I want to do one before I bring Emma on. Uh, there's 268 people entered so far. Again, you have to be in America for the physical prize. I apologize to my international friends. Uh, and we're going to do one in 2.3 seconds for an AccuPoint waterproof submersible pinpointer that'll sink into the headphones, the whole kitten caboodle. It's an incredible piece of technology that I use uh, myself. So, um, like I said, I want to scatter them so people don't just leave and show up at the end trying to win something. So, uh, we're going to do the first one right now, Doug. If you win, if I call your name, you have to be here. You have 1 minute to put your zip code in the chat. If I don't see your zip code, then I have to assume you're not here and draw another winner. Uh, it's the only way to kind of keep it fair so people don't uh, pop in and leave. And I am going to, I know people don't like this either, Doug. I'm going to slow the chat down to 30 seconds because it's getting a little a little hectic. >> cross-eyed looking at it. >> I'm slowing it down. I'll give everyone uh, 20 more seconds or so now that they can't type as quickly to put in #treasure. I want everyone to get, you know, as many uh, giveaway opportunities as possible. So, don't spam the chat because you're going to need to put your zip code in if you win. But um, you know, to help my moderators see your zip code or anything, I got to slow it down a little bit. All right, Doug, 300 people are in. Are you ready? We're going to do the first one of the day. I can't bring the picture up while this is up. But this is going to be for a Nokta uh, AccuPoint pinpointer. And Doug, I know you love doing the drum rolls. Would you mind giving me the drum roll, Doug? >> spit all over my monitor here. >> That's why that's why I blocked your face out. Go ahead. Oh, [clears throat] that's not bad. You're getting better. You're getting better. Good luck, everybody. Good luck. AccuPoint pinpointer. You can stop. Okay. Digger Eddie, 2051. Digger Eddie, congratulations. And look who's on on the uh, avatar. Uh, Cousin Eddie. Oh, yeah, you're right from uh, National Lampoon's. Yes. Yeah. Uh, Digger Eddie, I need you to um, whoops, that's not what I wanted. I need you to put your zip code into the chat, my friend. You got You got a minute. And then we're going to start bringing the guests in. Uh, congratulations, you won an AccuPoint waterproof multi-toned submersible super cool pinpointer. [laughter] Keep your eyes out for Eddie, Doug. All right. Now, listen, uh, while I'm waiting for Eddie, I want to um, just announce again who's coming on and I've got a little bit of a snafu, Doug, that we found out 10 minutes before the show comes on. >> ago. Yes, yes. So, um, in a second I'm going to be bringing on Emma from the YouTube channel Treasure Hunt With Us, who like I up, I Bree just texted me. Eddie, I missed it, but Bree texted me. Thank you, Bree. So, Eddie, congratulations, you won. I'm bringing in first um, Emma from Treasure Hunt With Us, who probably knows more about Justin and this hunt than almost anybody. She covers it on her channel every week along with the John Collins Black Hunt and some other hunts going on. I don't even know them all, but she does. She gave me the unfortunate uh, bad news that Justin's going to be late. He is his airplane is stuck in like a flying holding pattern. And when he lands, which should be in maybe 10 minutes, he's going to run through the airport and try to get a signal. So, I apologize. He will be here, but not at 7:30 uh, when everyone else is here. Uh, but we're going to start off without him because um, the show must go on, Doug. Yes. And uh, let me know uh, my moderators, is the chat manageable or is it still too fast? Uh, please let me know before I bring Emma on and I can lower the I've got 1 minute. Let me know if you need You guys can text me um, if you know my phone number. So, um, let's bring her in, Doug. Again, this is Emma who does the YouTube channel Treasure Hunt With Us with Jam, who I think is her brother. I just met her, but I'm excited to get to know her more. She is a guru of all these treasure hunts and knows more than almost anyone else on the planet. So, let's welcome her to the big show. Emma. And Emma, I'm going to put you on the big side. Hang on. I'm going to put you on the big side. You get the big side. Listen, I do love the biggest screen at all times. Yes, it looks it looks good. Thank you very much for taking time out. I know you got to be swamped trying to get ready for the Secret Summit show. We got a couple things going on and thank you so much for having me. Hopefully Justin will find time to jump on anytime He's going to get He's going to get here. I'm He's going to get here. We believe. We believe, but we're so excited to be here. We're so excited for all your support and Mark from Nokta, he's one of our sponsors for Secret Summit and he's fantastic. There's a lot to get into. I'm going to let you do the talking since it's usually me. Yeah, uh, Mark is an awesome dude. Um, I talk to him almost every single day. One one of my closest friends along with Doug and my crew. Yeah, yeah, and just a a great guy. Uh, donated a lot of the prizes for today. >> that. Oh my gosh. >> oh, he's amazing. You're going to like him. He's a super good guy. Um, so yes, uh, I couldn't thank Mark enough for all the prizes tonight. Uh, but I'm going to jump in and I know Justin's not here. My first couple of questions were from Justin, but I know you and Justin's relationship is very close, so I'm going to have you kind of answer on his behalf. And uh, my first question, which is going to be weird asking Justin, was was, you know, with all the nationwide success that the Netflix show brought of the Forrest Fenn treasure and all that hoopla, and now that it's over and you started your own treasure hunt, uh, I wanted to see was there anything that you now understand as a hider that wasn't even on your radar when you were a finder? Like has your perspective changed now that you're on the other side of that envelope? Well, he has given me the Posy proxy to answer questions. So, I can tell you what he's said about Emma Emma, did you just send me a super chat? You're the guest. >> [laughter] >> Emma. There's two pieces of Oh, is that Is that Is that Jam? Jam to me. All right. Jam, thank you. Normally the guests don't have to shower me with gifts, but thank you, Jam. That was very nice of you. I love what he says on his favorite. That's You are you are the favorite. All right. I I didn't mean to interrupt you. Go ahead. No, no, it's okay. You You asked a really great question because how can there not be things that are different from going from a hide or a a hunter to a hider, right? And the thing that I that anybody who's watching this and is a treasure hunter for our kinds of treasure versus your kinds of treasure, which all treasure's treasure and I don't discriminate. Um, is that you know, there's so much to go into it. And one of the things that makes us fortunate in our Beyond the Map Search world is that Justin Posy is outrageously analytical. And before he ever bought the Forrest Fenn treasure and decided to He had already decided he was going to hide it. Like he believed that he and his brother Brandon were going to go find this treasure and his goal was always to re-hide it. That was the intent. So, I think for him some of his bigger challenges are more legal, right? Because there's a lot of legalities that go into it. And there's actually a whole portion of his book. Um, and I think that and sometimes you put millions of dollars out there and then all the heck breaks loose. Yeah. Yeah. You know. Yeah, I I know when I watched the show and the the Netflix show and I I rewatched it this week as a refresher cuz I saw it a year ago. I think it's the 1-year anniversary. The 27th. We're going to be having a nice reception in honor of it. I'm going to get to that. Yeah, so next week, which is will be the 1-year anniversary of the show, I believe Justin's book also and to celebrate the Secret Summit convention, which we'll we'll we'll we'll we're going to get into a little bit later. Uh, I didn't realize that his his intention the whole time was when the treasure was found to keep it going by by re-hiding it again, which is uh, you know, quite you know, to have the foresight to be able to do that uh, knowing everything that he went through, all of the time and and emotion and all that. Um, I've got so many questions for him here. When when Let me Let me start start at the beginning here. Okay. Let me roll back cuz now I'm a little bit discombobulated. If you go back to the beginning We're sorry. We're sorry. It's okay. It's okay. I'm looking at you, but I'm asking Justin. That's okay. I'll do my best. What pulled Justin into the Forrest Fenn hunt in the first place? How did he get wind of it? How did he get involved in the earliest stages? So, there's a couple things to know. Justin is actually a lifelong treasure hunter. So, at a very young age, Justin's uncle Hiram gave him a book all about treasure and at that moment all he could see was treasure all around him, right? So, growing up, he was like and he he grew up in Arizona and some of his family was in a place called Cloudcroft. I struggle with that one. New Mexico. And his family has ties to the Victorio Peak treasure hunt. So, here he is, this 8-year-old boy or young boy, probably I shouldn't give the date. But this young boy who's just in awe and just falls madly in love with the hunt of treasure. Fast forward, we become adults, we go through life. Justin's uh, very brilliant coder and IT guy and he's living in Washington working for Microsoft and the grind is real, right? Many of us know, we're 9-to-5ers, you know, who want to want or need a hobby on the side, but sometimes real world gets daunting. His wife opens up a magazine, reads about Forrest Fenn and she's like, this is what you need. This is what you need on the side so you have that thing that separates the binary from reality. And so that's what really drove Justin to just become more than engaged to become basically obsessed with Forrest Fenn. I mean he had so many boots on the ground. It's insane. >> [clears throat] >> Yeah, and back then and then forgive me like cuz I came into this late. I didn't really know much about it until the Netflix show, but this had been going on for years. Uh when when I'm going to say it was more underground. I'm sure maybe in your world it wasn't, but in my world it was kind of underground until the Netflix and then it just exploded onto the scene. So how did that come about where he's doing his thing for years searching for this on his weekends his extra time and then all of a sudden it's found, it gets on the news and then Netflix reach out to him and he's a big part of the series. How did that did that all happen very quickly? Was he aware of it? What was that experience like of going from not really being well known and then all of a sudden he's thrown out in center stage? Well, I think the one thing about the Forrest Fenn community is it's very niche, right? And so Forrest goes out and decides he's dying, right? And he's like I got to do this. I got to hide a treasure. I've got to do something like my last hurrah, if you will, right? So he goes and he hides a treasure. But he's also like this prolific writer. And so he writes a book and like you see in the show, he goes in and he goes, "Hey, would you would you put my book up on the shelf?" And the rest is kind of hunting history, right? But throughout the process I mean it was a 10-year stint. So it wasn't quick. It wasn't overnight. And that first 5 years until there was an article, I can't remember it was like some kind of travel magazine wrote an article and all of a sudden then it took off and many of the Forrest Fenn hunters actually knew each other. They used to do something called Fennboree. Not that I don't remember if Justin ever went to Fennboree. I feel like he didn't, but I don't want to speak about on behalf of things I'm not positive of. But he really got in. So there was if you do like a deep dive of Forrest Fenn, you'll see that there's YouTubers just like what you and I do out there doing Forrest Fenn stuff and you can actually find Justin on people's show. Um and stuff like that. And so I think that he always had a love of it. And there was actually an episode on a show for a person called Amy Seek where he talks about what he would do if he was hiding a treasure. And you can see when you're watching that that that that moment didn't start at that scene. >> That moment started when he was eight. That moment started and every year after and every day he went out and looked for that treasure from that moment on. And so for him I think that it became a point where he believed he was going to find it. And then when it was found, I suspect something happened where it just flipped and it was just time to go buy it and re-hide it again because that was always the intent. Yeah, and I would imagine in that mindset like he dedicated so much of his life along with all the other seekers. That's the term, Doug, seekers. We're seekers. They're seekers. So when you dedicate your your life to this and all your free time and making the relationships in the community and then it's found it's like it's over. Right. You don't want that to end. So it's almost like you feel like you have to keep it going because that's part of your identity. Sure. But now even though he's a hider he can't participate. So he's still in the community and he's still involved, but yet he has to enjoy it from the other side of the envelope. How how does he deal with that where he loves being a treasure hunter, but obviously you can't hunt for your own treasure. So now he has to kind of sit back. He might watch people on your show talk about their ideas. Maybe they're on the right track. Maybe they're not, but he can't quite say, but you know, he wants to and how does that that new reality fit where he's on the complete other side of the coin? Okay, well that's a great question. The >> [clears throat] >> The truth is this is that seekers, we will be seekers for our whole lives. It doesn't matter if we also become hiders. We're always going to want to find something. We love the unknown. We love the puzzle. You know, there's that that part of you that that like yearns for the those days when you had to come in because the lights went out or came on. You know what I mean? We're those kind of people. That's who we are. And then there's that part of you that's always trying to stretch your brain. And that's that part of that childlike wonder that almost fades into the past, right? But I think that what you find with Justin is like he could engage in hunts that maybe he didn't do, but but there's two kinds of hiders also, right? There's the hider that's over you know, never involved or like has a very limited you know, interaction with the community cuz the community is pretty much out there, right? And the community is not just Discord and not just YouTube or Facebook. It's the community is a community. You can find someone in almost any kind of social media platform or even just base email many times. And so you have the person who's really detached. And then you have people who are more I wouldn't say entrenched, but I would say available. And Justin's done a really great job of participating and be being pretty available to to meet seekers. Like for example, uh last year we went out and we hunted in Montana and we stayed at a place called the Grasshopper Inn. It's this beautiful little tiny when I say tiny I mean it's in Polaris, Montana. I mean it's a dot on a map. It happens to be a dot on his map, but we're staying there and literally Justin goes in and has dinner at this place. And so we're sitting there we knew we were going to be eating dinner with him and but the [snorts] second we're sitting there hunters or seekers after one after another are coming in and he's just available. He's like asks them, says, "Hey, how's it going? Where'd you hunt today?" Shakes hands, signs books. I always say shakes hands, kisses babies. You know, he he just does it right. He engages without providing clues that not everybody else would have. He's never going to cross the line. I'm going to bring up just an article here. His website where it kind of explains the hunt. There's a link to it in the description. It's not a traditional www address, but there's a link to it. You can see it up in the top here. It does go into a little bit of his bio. Uh it goes into the treasure a little bit. The actual treasure that he re-hid. Uh some of which are pieces from the actual Forrest Fenn treasure that he found. Um they touched about that on the show, but in case someone didn't see it how did he wind up cuz Justin wasn't the finder of the trea- of the Forrest Fenn treasure. How did he get even get in possession of these actual pieces from the Forrest Fenn hunt which consumed so much of his life? So he actually bought the treasure from an auction house. And so Jack Stuef who is the treasure finder and I'm always, you know, like all fun hunt communities and I assume that you guys have it in your hunt there's always conspiracies, right? But to my knowledge Jack Stuef found that treasure in June of 2020 in I always say this wrong. Yellowstone National Park. I always say Yosemite. Okay. >> National Park. Yeah, I've heard of that. >> of Nine Mile Hole. And um Sorry, I laugh at myself. Um but so Jack Stuef found it. And then he con- he contacted Forrest and the process started and then he he sold the treasure through an auction house. And again, like I said, Justin's intent if he found it or had found it with his brother was always to re-hide that treasure. Always to go out there and give some back to the hunters. And he did. He gave he sent little bits of that treasure to so many hunters that he knew cuz he's he's a super generous guy. I mean people are like, "Oh well, he hid a treasure out in the forest. So I mean he sounds pretty generous." But like there's something special about the way he makes sure that people know that he saw them, right? And that that so he went and he found that and he put one of the biggest pieces, the dragon bracelet, is in this and it's big and it's fantastic. And you know, there's um oh my gosh, I can't believe I can't think of the name of it. The shilling. Oh my gosh, my my whole hunt community is probably going, "I can't believe she doesn't know the name of the shilling." It's like the first he's like in the show he says, "It's the beginning or it's may- it's the beginning of us. It's the Oh my gosh, I'm sure it's in the chat right now. >> Well, I actually have a picture of it because it that the shilling is one of the things that as a detectorist we look for. Yeah, like this is what we look for every year. And to give you an idea of the price in in the treasure that Justin re-hid, he hid a 1654 oak tree shilling that was graded in MS64. In the coin world you know, MS70 is the most mint and then you go down. So this one which is an MS61, a poorer quality than Justin's, is still worth $60,000. His is probably closer to 100,000 uh just for this one thing. And there is the treasure chest is packed, you know, along with like you said the the dragon bracelet. filled to the gills. Really? Yes, it's filled to the gills. You talk about like the things that he says that people like jump onto and they can't let let go of it because we don't know what the container is. Like you you interviewed John Collins Black from There's Treasure Inside and he shows you what the boxes look like. Yeah. They look like this, but bigger, right? They have big size boxes. You know what you're looking for. But in the case of Justin posing Beyond the Map's Edge, all we know is that there's a container out there. They don't know what it is. >> recognizable to us when we get there. Yeah, yeah. There was another thing, Doug. I never heard of this. Um but on his and I can't bring up both pictures at once. But on his website when he goes into the treasure, he said he in the hunt are several of these which I guess are called pamp sues? I don't even know. >> Sweet. Pamp suey. Pamp suey. He said there's several of them in there and the going price on one $163,000. And he's got several in there. So when I put in the thumbnail that he's got a million dollar treasure, it might be closer to two two and a half with how much inflation's been Exactly. creeping in the last couple of years. I think maybe even more. I mean you have to remember, filled to the gills with gold coins and the gills. filled to the gills gold coins and then then you have the intrinsic value of the fact this is a hidden treasure. Filled to the gills is how Doug spends every breakfast. >> [laughter] >> Oh, poor Doug. >> No, I don't. >> Oh, I could I like to just get I just like to get some I like to get some some Oh, listen, um I see in the chat people are asking if Justin's going to be here. We said in the opening of the show that there was a slight delay on his plane. He was circling getting ready to land. When he lands, he's going to run to a signal. He will be here, knock on wood, um to uh to participate in the in the show. >> Here's the thing, guys. If you're here from like our side of treasure hunting, you know he's doing everything in his power to get here if he can. But if you've traveled at all in the last couple weeks, it's a TSA nightmare and it's completely outside of his control. He had every intentions of being here. Heck, on our show last night, he talked about it. He was excited. He's been dying to meet Jason. And if he can be here, he's going to be here. But for now, we all know we're going to answer the questions. We're going to do the best we can because we have a huge event coming up. And because he's not here, Jason, what do you think if we give away a signed copy of Beyond the Map's Edge? >> Oh, that would be wonderful. >> that Do we do that too today? A signed copy of Beyond the Map's Edge? We can add that to the mix also. I mean, you're going to see him next week. Uh that would be wonderful. What a good prize that is. Not only >> And I heard you say you're going to give away four tickets in pairs. What if I gave you four more tickets for your pairs? Whoa. Oh, so eight so eight total tickets. Well, come on, guys. That's pretty that's pretty darn good. The it just gets And talking about that, Emma, I am going to stop right now for just a quick minute and we're going to give something else away. I'm going to give away I want to mix them in the whole show. I'm going to give away right now, courtesy of Nokta Detectors, their Pulse Dive Pinpointer goes down to 200 uh plus feet into the into the water. You can use it on land. It's a 200-some dollar value. The the Pulse Dive Pinpointer, if you're not familiar with it, is the handheld little wand that detectors use. Mark said a lot of the seekers will actually uh tape it to like a staff and shove it in trees and in bushes where you can't see and that will go off. So, I'm going to give one away right now again. Again, for the physical prizes, you have to live in America or at least ship it to America. Uh just for money cost. As great as the guy as Mark is, his budget is $0 and 0 cents. So, I try not to spend his money any more than I than I have to. So, uh I'm going to do one right now. You got to be here. If I call your name, you got to put your zip code in the chat. You're going to have 1 minute. Just a reminder, you got to put hashtag treasure. Yes, it's scrolling at the bottom. For anyone that came in after you made the announcement earlier. Yeah, I'm going to leave it scrolling. Hashtag treasure. Make sure you put in that that hashtag is is good for every giveaway we do tonight. I'm going to keep reusing it. The only caveat is you got to be in America and you got to be in the chat. If I call your name, you'll have 1 minute to put the zip code in. And uh we're going to draw again right now for the Pulse Dive Pinpointer with the 8-in coil. Emma, would you give me the honors of your best tongue drum roll? Oh my god, I don't even know what that means. I'm like You know, you give me you got Right. Right. >> [laughter] >> I'm not very good. >> that was good enough. Neither am I. Go ahead. That was good. She did it. Good luck, everybody. Pulse Dive Pinpointer 8-in coil. >> familiar names go by. This is great. LIGHTSABER OH, YOU KNOW LIGHTSABER SWEDE. OH, CONGRATS. I like it when someone we know wins. Lightsaber Swede, I don't know you. I need you to put your zip code in the chat. Just your zip code. Nothing else. Don't put your address, your phone number, your social security number. Just your zip code. That way we can figure out who everybody is after the show. Fun fact, he just was at another event that we went to in Las Vegas in January and it was there was a a costume contest and he dressed up in a T-shirt that had all the shirts my brother and I jam all over him. It says things like "Justin didn't poop in the bathtub" or "It's It looked like a shirt LOOKED LIKE A PICKLE JAR TO ME" AND LIKE ALL the different crazy shirts my brother wears, he put them all over his shirt. It was my favorite. It was coolest, yeah. I did see uh the zip code in uh in the chat. So, thank you very much. I'm going to bring it up real quick cuz I got to toggle between nine different uh windows. I'm going to bring up in case uh they came in late. Uh this is what you've won. What's his name? You you know his name? Uh I I will just call him What I mean, his username is screen name. >> call him the Swede. The Swede. All right, this is what you won, the Swede. The Pulse Dive uh submersible pinpointer. 200-some dollar value. Excellent. I use one myself. Um and listen, if you've never treasure hunted with an extra piece of apparatus, this is the one you want. So, uh congratulations, my friend. It's the one I want now. After talking to Mark, he has me completely convinced I need all of them. Well, wait till you see next week. Uh he's coming out and uh our good friend uh from metaldetectingshop.com, who is a detecting dealer, is going to be there also. Oh, wow. >> Uh not only donated a prize for tonight, but he's going to have a table full of detecting gear. So, you'll really get Fantastic. I when I called some of your show, uh there he is. metaldetectingshop is in the chat right now. So, his name is Ryan. You'll meet him next week. Well, I can't wait to meet you. Come say hi. Yes, he's a good dude. He's a good dude. Um and we'll get it and we're going to get into that later. Let me get back to my thing. Like I said, I'm trying to mix them in again. So, now now with Justin's book, I guess he was sort of inspired from Forrest Fenn, the way he did it. Justin put his own book out. Uh is it's also, I'm guessing, the same thing. Riddles, clues, poems that someone has to interpret. Um you know, from someone like you, Emma, who follows this very closely, has Discords and Facebook groups, do you get any inclination that people are getting closer? Anyone who's got solves that you think might be going down the right track? What advice can you give to someone who's out there looking for this thing? Well, there's a few things. We're We're fortunate. One of the One of the I wouldn't call it a flaw cuz I don't think any hunts are really flawed. One of the things that Justin didn't love about Forrest's hunt is that you could think you were so close and not There were no guardrails. So, he put what he calls guardrails in his book. They're in the form of a checkpoint. And so, I want to say back in like August-ish, September, he said that somebody had been within 200 ft of the checkpoint. So, I do think that people have gotten close. I think that just like all treasure hunts, you know, you're going to read every word, you're going to, you know, analyze all the data and, you know, there's a tendency to have some rabbit holes and when he released the audio book, it felt like what it was trying to tell us in some ways is try to keep it simple. Don't overcomplicate it. And he's actually done several interviews since then where he's saying like, "Have fun with it." And it's it's never his intent to draw you away from your rabbit holes. Who doesn't love a good rabbit hole? I have great shovels. But, you know, just be cognizant of the fact that your confirmation bias may lead you in the wrong direction. You have to have your own guardrails to keep you back in line. Yeah, when I when I saw the Forrest Fenn uh Netflix series, I noticed that all of the searchers that were uh you know, the stars of that series, every one of them thought they had the answer. They solved it. There was this tree or this river bend or this mountain. And once you have that in your mind that you know where it is, then the other clues you make fit into your narrative to affirm it. And then when you go out and it's not there, it's got to be devastating. Do you find that people overthink these puzzles? Do they underthink it? What's the mindset of someone going out, putting boots on the ground, traveling across the country, you know, in hopes that they had it right? Well, I mean, it's funny. It's like you described my first boots on the ground. But um it's, you know, I think it's a little bit of everything, right? And that's kind of the good and the bad. There are overthinkers and we You cannot You cannot convince a hunter to come away from their thought. You just can't. Not that you'd even really want to because what if you accidentally discouraged someone and they were in the right place? But But there's what confirmation bias is probably the strongest bias. There's location bias. So, the number of people who were like, "Oh my gosh, I read this and I know exactly where it was." And we saw that in Golden Greed, right? When when the hearse were like, "This is Cody and buy a Cody, right?" So, we, you know, it's something that really happens and these things are real. And so, when you're asking yourself, cuz these trips are not inexpensive, especially if you're like me where I live on the East Coast and I'm I don't even want to tell you how many trips out West I took last year. It's kind of embarrassing. And again, I still have no treasure, but I have amazing memories. So, you have to refine and refine and then ask yourself, is that a clue or an idea or is that just like me wishing it was a clue? Yeah, yeah. One of my moderators, Bree, said she's wondering if the book in your window is a clue. And that's a I don't mean to say [laughter] this is not This is a clue to John Collins' book. This is one of his clues for his book. So, for So, yes, it is a clue, but to a different hunt because there's three multi-million dollar hunts in at Secret Summit this this next week. Another one of the hunts will be going on. We'll have a Q&A for that multi-million dollar hunt as well uh called Treasure Quest, which is a cryptocurrency hunt. So, there's so much hunting happening. >> Oh, wow. Yeah, we're going to get into that. I'm going to see if John uh I mean, I'm sorry. If uh if Justin shows up before we get to the Secret Summit. If not, we will do it without him. Hopefully, he's running through an airport somewhere right now. >> Sounds like we may be getting closer if it's possible, for sure. >> Yeah. Well, we're going to hope so. Um let me see let me go through my my other questions here. And if anybody out there has a question for Emma or for John, and Emma might be able to answer them. Please feel free to to I'm sorry. What do I I'm getting I'm just about it. >> thank you, Doug. Thank you. Oh, Doug speaks. That's >> [clears throat] >> Doug does speak. When I can get a word in edgewise. I know it's a lot of talking on here. I can't imagine with us two that's ever going to be easy. Yeah. So so like we said earlier, this is going to be the one-year anniversary of the book, the show, and all that. Is does Justin actively follow the hunt online? Like is he Is he lurking in the groups? Is he constantly watching out? Or is he kind of like John Collins Black told me he doesn't really get involved. He has people that'll give him updates, but he kind of stays out of it. I got the impression Justin's a little more, you know, in the in the mix. >> He is. Well, here's what I'll tell you. Justin Posey reads every email sent to him himself. Oh. >> all the DMs. He does not reply to all of them because you can imagine he doesn't reply to most of them, I would bet, because he's never going to give an advantage in a way that other people wouldn't also have it. So like he would like for probably I would bet I mean I'd be guessing, but I would bet that is this the checkpoint is probably the most common question he gets. And he's never going to reveal that to just one person. He's not going to be like, "You're right. That super secret place is the exact checkpoint and only you get to know about it. Go find it, kiddo." No, he would only it talk to or speak to these things in group settings. So like if we he had a Q&A when we were in Dillon, Montana last year in June and I mean he literally after we were outside for almost 10 hours um signing he was signing books for almost 10 hours. He then went inside and did like a 3-hour long Q&A where he would a 2 and 1/2-hour long Q&A answering questions given to him by the crowd. Wow. >> that's the format that he likes to really kind of answer detailed questions, but he himself reads his emails. He reads his DMs. He is lurking in the background on Discord and Facebook groups. And because he wants to keep his fingertips on the pulse of it. He's not He's in a I mean he interacts a lot with people on Facebook and and he's like come and jumped into a live chat on our Discord before. I mean there's He's very active. And to your point, yeah, John has decided that for him it's best to be, you know, a little bit hands-off. It's just a different kind of hunt just like I suspect there's different places you go and hunt for metal detecting. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Uh there's some questions in here. Mike Trokler asking, "Where do we get the book and the website info?" Uh you can get the book and there's links in the description of this live stream. Uh this is his website on here. If you want to copy it, the website link is also in the description. Goes over all the information. He has links. You can get it on Amazon. The book is called Beyond the Map's Edge and it has all the puddle puddles puzzles poems everything you're going to need, you know, with some ingenuity and some deciphering. But as of today, that treasure is still out there waiting to be found. Um you know, my next question about was exactly for that that it's waiting to be found. Right. What sort of safeguards does Justin have where if it does get found, the finder will reach out to him or let him know so that Justin doesn't think it's still waiting and really was found 2 months ago. So he has he will know. There's a steward. There's some features. There's some things. So when the when the treasure is found, he will know. He doesn't really tell you how he'll know, but there's also a steward involved. So you will reach out to the steward. There's additional things beyond just the treasure that you just walked up and grabbed, you know. He says that it will be a retrieval mission when you go to get it. Once you've really truly unraveled his poem, um it will be a retrieval. So you'll go out, you'll get it, and then you'll contact the steward. And so the moment that the treasure is found, Justin will have He has committed to posting it that they're where they have 30 days to come forward from the moment that the treasure is found on treasure.quest, which is his website. Okay. Okay. And I think I read that within the the treasure is some sort of crypto and I don't know much about crypto, so I apologize. >> a Bitcoin wallet that's associated cuz Justin didn't do this to make money. He did this because he just wanted to he he loved what he did. He loved what Forrest gave him, the time he gave him with his brother, the inspiration it gave him to get away from a you know, the four walls of an office and get outside and see the world. Justin is so about the, you know, the energy of being outside and just going out and seeing things that are beautiful that you'd never seen before. And as a person who prior to this literally February of last year, I had never hiked in my life. Um I don't think I had any clue that there was such beauty waiting to be seen, you know. And that's what he wanted to give to people and he did that for that purpose. And so the Bitcoin wallet, every time somebody buys a book, money goes into the Bitcoin wallet and that's part of what you'll get if once you meet the steward, they'll give it to you. HERE HE IS. AH, [screaming] BETTER LATE THAN NEVER. Better late than >> [laughter] >> Hey, Doug. How are you doing? I'm glad you made it. People thought we were lying that we you weren't really coming on. >> [laughter] >> No, that's terrible. No, I I TSA situation right now. It's just everything is really backed up and I just was not where I thought I was going to be. >> [laughter] >> Don't worry. I've been talking to him for like 4 hours. >> minutes, so yeah. We We got to fly next week, too, and I'm worried for the same thing. Doug and I got to go. >> you. Yeah, hopefully it'll clear up by then. Well, I'm glad Listen, I'm glad you made it, but uh we're out of here. So I'll see you GUYS NEXT WEEK. >> [laughter] >> WELL, THAT WAS EASY. HE'S A HE'S A jokester that way. [laughter] No, look at Listen, Emma Emma was playing your role answering all the questions that we had for you. She does a terrific job. But it is nice to see your handsome face to be a people to validate it. And I would love to get some some of yours even though Emma certainly did an incredible job. Um so I'm going to jump in. I know you're a little late. You may have missed a lot of the questions that we already asked there. We're going to get to the Seeker Summit in a second. But I got to ask one of the questions here and forgive me again, like I said, if you are coming in late. Um if your treasure goes on and hasn't been found in X amount of years, do you have a time frame where you might release additional hints or clues? Or if it goes your whole lifetime, then it goes your whole lifetime. Oh my gosh. >> [laughter] >> I really can't imagine it lasting that long. You never know. You never know. >> Some days I'm surprised it's lasted as long as it has. Yeah, I mean I I I think I think it's a balance because there's you know, there are a lot of people that have worked hard on this and I I don't want to alienate them by uh pushing things along too far, but at the same time I would like to see progress. So I I think I think there's some kind of balance to be struck there and I just need to decide what it is. And so yeah, I mean there'll certainly be some I guess you can call them pointers or hints released at the at the Seeker Summit coming up. And then beyond that, uh we'll we'll take it day by day and see. Yes, I'm going to get to the Seeker So we haven't even touched on that. I'm going to get to that in 2 minutes. Um I'll go one or more questions for you about the hunt, you know, your hunt before we get into the event. Um one of the questions I got a lot was because you were a seeker for so long for Forrest Fenn's treasure and now on the other side of the coin as a hider, uh is there anything now watching the community go out and seek for your puzzle that you're second-guessing yourself on how you designed it or how you hid it? Like in seeing how it's unfolding, do you think like, "Oh, I should have did it a little bit different"? Because there's not exactly a blueprint for doing this. Yeah, that's true. Uh nobody's ever asked me that before. Um Hm. You know, I I'm actually feeling pretty good about it. There's nothing that that I regret and I think that it's all working out just about as well as I could hope for. So uh I'm pretty pleased with it. All right. Well, that's good. That's good. And I appreciate you walking walking through the airport as you're I'm surprised he's even got a signal, Doug. >> Are you trying to make a connection, Justin? >> [laughter] >> I am. He actually leaves in 2 minutes, so >> [laughter] >> Uh well, we we might get there in time. We We might be losing him again. But hey, at least he's here. Everyone gets to see see his face. Um so so that's good. Let me bring in real fast Justin >> [laughter] >> I get I want to talk about the Seeker Summit. And the Seeker Summit is a mega event that Emma and Justin are coordinating together to put on for the community. Uh can you guys go over either Emma or Justin how you came up with the idea and what people can expect from this mega convention? You want me to take it, Justin, since you're a little late? >> You want to take that one? Yeah, go for it. Go for it. Okay. So like I think I Justin we were talking about doing something when Justin was talking about a book show that was going to happen in the spring. And so he had always anticipated that he was going to do something, but we didn't know what it was cuz we were waiting on some information. And then the book the book show disappointingly went another direction from their perspective cuz it will never sell as many tickets now. But from our perspective, gave us an opportunity to do a collaboration with some of the largest YouTube hunt hunt channels that are out there including Mysterious Writings and SD's Quest, Treasure Hunt with us and bring Justin and a whole conglomerate of people that are hunt creators, hunt participators in the golden the cast of Golden Greed, and Jared, the director of Golden Greed, out to have a major all-day event. Um it started as something like that and then Justin never does anything small. And as you're talking through things, he's like, "What if we had a treasure hunt and we tried to go for a Guinness Book of World Records?" And I'm just like, "Okay." Pretty much every time I talk to him he's like he just throws something at me. He goes, "What do you think about this?" And I'm like, >> [laughter] >> "Okay." Yeah, I mean I was surprised. I mean you were going the event could possibly get a Guinness Book of World Records for the largest attended treasure hunt in the world. We need a little help for those trying to break a Guinness record. You always need help. Right. >> They have a star-studded lineup of treasure hunters and authors and hiders and Netflix people. Can you tell people who's going to be there speaking as I flash some of them up on the screen? Right. Well, from your world we have Nicolina I always say her last name wrong. Bohr? Is that how I say that? I believe it's pronounced Bohr. Bohr. Yeah, so Nicolina Bohr who is both a metal detectorist and you know, what I like to refer to as like a a super environmentalist at the same time. She's always trying to teach us how to get out there and do this in a way that's responsible to the earth while still having fun and finding things, right? We have a panel of creators for like hunts that are maybe a few hundred thousand dollars or less and they're going to talk about the hunts that are out there that are that are a little bit different. The whole the cast of Golden Greed with the exception of the Hurst who can't be there and Jared who's the director is going to be there. It's a version of having the Golden Greed in one place that we've never seen in any capacity before cuz you've never been able to say, "Hey Jared, why did you pick this scene versus this scene?" Or "What made you spin it like this?" It's going to be very exciting stuff. We're also going to sit down and discuss with people who are chara- not characters, but people who are in the Beyond the Map's Edge books including Matt DeMoss who did the editing and talk about the book itself, how it how it kind of played out for them, what how they felt about their stories, how they were portrayed. Um and then we have two massive and I mean massive Q&A's. One for The Hunt for a Treasure Quest which is the cryptocurrency hunt done by Chad Bird. He's going to do a Q&A. Then Justin's going to do a Q&A. Um and then following that we're going to turn around and we're going to have a treasure hunt. Yeah, let's talk about this treasure hunt cuz I'm looking on the website that there's going to be an actual treasure hunt that at the event itself where someone could win $10,000. Um I know you probably can't give too much information cuz that's what makes it a treasure hunt. How is that structure going to work? Are they going to physically look? Is it going to be like look under your chair like Oprah? If there's an envelope you win. Like You get a car. You get a car. No. Nobody gets a car. Uh this is this is uh this is Greece versus America. Uh so Greece holds the title for the world record right now and we're we're looking to take the title here in America and we need 1,385 I think people in order to break that record. So we're we're trending toward it at this point and the more people show up the better chance we have of breaking that record. And if you think about it, it's pretty good odds all things considered. Uh So yeah, I mean it will actually all take place within the expo center. The Arizona attorney general actually puts some a fair amount of restrictions in Arizona statutes in terms of how we run this. So we're operating within those constraints, but it is a skill-based treasure hunt. Yes. Okay, skill-based treasure hunt. Yeah. And as you go through the milestones as more people attend and if you go to the website secret summit.org again link in the description, the more people that attend new milestones will unlock Right. >> including some of the bigger ones where Justin's going to be eliminating certain states from his hunt like really narrowing it down. Is that accurate? Yes, he's going to minimally he will eliminate one state. When we hit 11:11 he's going to eliminate a scene from Golden Greed where people are putting too much energy on clues that may not necessarily be clues. And when we hit 2,000 which he and I are debating what we're going to do if if if it's going to hit or not. I always believe I'm going to hit my numbers. When we hit 2,000 he'll eliminate a second state. Oh my goodness. Now that talk about a good clue there and it better not be I'm eliminating Alaska. You better be a good one. Better be a good one. >> I would take Alaska [laughter] over a little tiny piece of Texas. All right. Yeah, Texas would be a big one. And listen, if you're if you want to go I mean look here's the ticket prices. They're like 10 to 15 bucks for under 21, 25 bucks for they're very reasonable for a full day. Can you go over the the the event activities from time because it looks like it's action-packed? Sure. Sure. And so really it's two-day event. When you come in on on Friday night the event itself is a reception that that you know, is a birthday party if you will for both Golden Greed and Beyond the Map's Edge because it's the one-year anniversary. I like to think of it as a birthday mainly cuz you get cake. Um you know, so that night will be a mixer. We have a really awesome Billy Shaw Jr. band's going to be there playing and it's just an opportunity for like-minded people to get together and talk solves and hang out and be buds and make friends with those people who you didn't you know, when you meet someone in like gold coin 42 you don't really know who they are until they show up and you're like, "Hi Mark, how are you?" You know. >> about You know, so your world's kind of like ours, but and we've all had that moment when we're at Thanksgiving we're like, "Oh." They're like, "What do you mean you're treasure hunting?" And they give you that look and what you find is in events like this and when we do like meetups is it's an opportunity to be around people who make you feel like your passion and your love is less crazy. And it's just a great opportunity to kind of be around everybody for that night. Yes, and tickets are available. Make sure you go to secret summit.org and pick some up. We're going to be giving some away shortly. In fact, I'm going to actually break away real fast and we're going to do another giveaway. I'm going to scatter them throughout the event. We're going to give away another metal detector. We're going to give away the Finders Pro. This is from Nokta Detectors. It's completely submersible. It comes with an incredible package with a carrying case with headphones with the premium hand digger. It's a beginner machine, but it's very powerful. Anyone can pick it up and use it. You can bring it to the beach. You can bring it to the lake. And you're going to have a whole lot of fun with it. Again, this prize is going to be open to anyone. You got to live in America for any of the physical prizes. So if you didn't already enter, it's scrolling at the bottom that you can just type in #treasure and you've got a shot. So we're going to do another one right now. We're going to give it away again courtesy of Nokta Detectors the Finders Pro. Uh Justin, I know you're in the middle of an airport and there's a lot of people around. You don't want to be embarrassed. Can you give me your breast your best tongue drum roll? I can try. Oh, that's really good. THAT WAS GOOD. THAT WAS really good. Good luck everybody. That was the best one I've heard all night. Oh, Thea Dement. I think if I'm if I'm pronouncing it right. Thea Dement. Thea, I hope you're here. Make sure you put your zip code in the chat. Uh congratulations. As long as I see your zip code in the next 60 seconds, you won the prize. And then all winners, if you're still here, email me quarterhorder@yahoo.com after the show and as long as the email zip code matches the zip code you're putting in the live chat, we will send your prizes out tomorrow. So moderators, let me know please if you see Thea Dement and we will get her her detector shipped out. Um I want to roll back for just a second because there was one or two questions I had for Justin that I wasn't sure if you could answer Emma, so I skipped them. I might have gotten an answer. Uh you might have, but but this some of them were like uh specific. So let me roll back cuz it got me a little discombobulated. Could I ask a question? Sure. Go ahead, Doug. Uh for Justin. Uh Justin, did you have any trepidation in uh considering to do this um facsimile of Forrest Fenn's treasure hunt considering there were people that passed away in seeking this treasure? I I I mean certainly there were some trepidation and I I think you know, overall I view Forrest Fenn's treasure hunt as a as a good case study and I think that with some iterative improvements it can it can actually operate pretty smoothly and I I don't I don't blame Forrest for what happened. I mean there was really no precedent for that and so he he did the best he could with the I think the resources he had available and so we all have the benefit of hindsight now and so as part of this treasure hunt, you know, we've really I've really tripled down on in terms of the rules and the safety aspects to make sure that there's some guardrails on this and not so much that it's you know, it ceases to be an adventure. I think there's a balance to be had there, but I like to think that it's it's working out pretty well most things considered. Oh, very nice. And I think Nicoline is in the chat. I'm not sure. Mark from Nokta Mark's mentioned your name. I can't see her. I'm not sure. Um I'm going to follow up with a quick question for you too uh Justin is um you know, during the Netflix show, you know, like you said that the director shows what you know, what they want to show and it was a terrific series. I'd read the most rewatched Netflix series ever probably because at the end you announced that your segments throughout the series you were giving clues for the treasure hunt which when you're watching it the first time you're not expecting that and then everyone goes back and rewatches and rewatches. But was there anything when they filmed and framed the show when you first saw it that they got wrong or things that they got right? Things that they edited out that you thought, "Oh, it didn't quite happen that way." Were you surprised with the finished show of how you remembered it actually happening? Yeah, I mean there's a lot of variables in in a production like this. I mean which scenes are going to be included in which order? What's the framing going to look like? What's going to be in focus? What are they going to cut? I mean there's there are a lot of things that could go wrong. And so, you know, I hedged my bets and that's really the main reason why I decided to do something like a book is worst case scenario none of this works out in the series then, you know, there's a fallback in in terms of the of the book and that can stand the test of time. I mean the good news is that it actually worked out remarkably well and it was just one of those gambles where a calculated gamble if you will because um you know, I couldn't I couldn't give them any inside or track in terms of which what is what all is important to include and and timing and so on. And so uh I probably went a little over the top and including probably too many things uh because there were many hours of footage that they shot. I mean starting in 2021. So it was it was uh multiple years of filming and probably thousands of hours. And so, yeah, I mean some things did end up on the chopping block, but um the important things that I was really hoping would be included did get included. And uh it just it just seemed to work out. So uh I I think we got a little bit lucky on that one. What when they first reached out to you, the people from Netflix, and gave you the idea they were doing a show, had the Fenn treasure been found already at that point or did they pick up on the story before it was even found? I you know, when they first started filming, I mean it wasn't even sold to Netflix. You know, I I didn't even I I had no idea it was going to be this big. Um the treasure had been found, but the location of where the treasure was hidden had not. And so it was kind of this this uh little moratorium in between that was a very interesting time and that was probably in 20 uh 2021, I want to say. I'm pretty bad with dates, but I think that's right. Okay, got you. Uh and I'm just going through and again, if anyone has any questions for Justin, please put them in the chat uh or for Emma, please put them in the chat. If you have a question for Doug, I'm going to have to get to it another day. >> [laughter] >> Um with without giving anything away, Justin, I'm sorry. I thought you were saying something, Doug. Um have you found that you're seeing people in the community make the same mistakes over and over again uh where you're like, oh, another person doing this. I want to say something, but I don't want to interfere or do you think people are kind of getting the hang of it up front? What's your vibe on how people are taking this? I know in the treasure community there's a lot of experience and they might know what to do, but the average Joe who goes to his local bookstore and has never done this before I I they're bound to probably, you know, look into the wrong thing and go down like Emma said, a rabbit hole that could be years and nothing come out of it. Yeah, I mean I I guess I don't see it in terms of mistakes necessarily. It's more just uh it's a journey and I think in any well-structured treasure hunt uh you know, the occasional rabbit hole is is entertaining to a certain degree. Um and so I kind I kind of see uh the arc of a story here and and we're in the middle of that story and it and it will have an ending uh but there are a lot of kind of twists and turns along the way and I think that's uh that's part of the fun. Uh so no, I wouldn't I mean there's definitely some themes that that uh people have latched on to that uh some of which are important, some not so much. And those are the types of things I'm weighing as we go into the Secret Summit in terms of what what makes sense to clarify and what doesn't. I mean what I don't want is people diving too far down into these esoteric things that ultimately do not matter, you know, especially something that would categorize years of um effort or something like that. >> Sure. But uh you know, it's it's a balance in the end. Yeah. I'm going to go back to the Secret Summit. I'm I'm jumping around a little bit because uh you know, as good as Emma did, there were some questions that I wasn't sure if she'd be able to handle. >> I tried my best. >> She did. She did a terrific job, way better than anyone else would have. Um but you had said the director of the special is going to be at the Secret Summit. He's going to be giving a talk. Um what kind of uh questions are are people going to have for him as far as the editing process, things that maybe were cut out and because you gave clues to your treasure during the show you know, were some of those segments cut out because maybe that guy's like, look, I'm making a show, buddy. I'm not here to sell your book and he left out things that you deemed were really important Easter eggs. Uh it sounds like he needs his own Q&A, huh? >> [laughter] >> Well, I would think so. Yeah, uh I mean you know, certainly be the opportunity to ask questions of him at the at the summit. Um and I think he's been he's had a really good attitude about all of this. Uh you know, I I think in one interview he mentioned early on like, you know, at some point he might search for for my treasure. And that actually makes me feel good in the sense that, you know, I can I can come to the table and say no one has a significant leg up over anybody else. And you know, I look at the scenes that were ultimately cut and the importance thereof and they're super low. So it just it doesn't bother me that there are you know, maybe a tight-knit people at Netflix that might have access to those deleted scenes. That that's not concerning to me. Uh because the the major ones that were really important to me all got included. So um yeah, I I I think it all worked out, but I I I hope I hope everybody enjoys meeting Jared. He's a very affable person. I think you'll you'll like meeting him. Well, that's good. I'm I'm excited for it. And I'm going to I'm going to break again and Doug, we're going to do a giveaway and we're going to give away some of the Secret Summit tickets, which I'm really excited about. We were going to give away um two sets of two. Where's my photo? Let me bring it up. Hold on. We were going to give away two sets of two tickets, four in total but Emma was so nice to double it. So we're going to give away we're [clears throat] going to go back-to-back drawings. We're going to give two tickets away with one drawing and then another two and then we'll save two more for the end of the show. So we're going to do another drawing >> but my flight is boarding now and I've waited as long as I can. So I I got to jump, guys. But I really appreciate your time and I I'm so sorry for for jumping off. >> All right, take care. Thank you for coming on. All right, bye-bye. Thank you. All right, Doug, let me bring up here the um whoa. I'm going to bring up the uh giveaway screen. Now this one you can be international. I don't care where in the world you live. You got to get out to the Secret Summit. But this is going to be a giveaway for two tickets. So you win and a plus one. Uh if I won, Doug, I would bring you, but I'm not going to I can't win. I wouldn't be allowed to. So uh good luck everybody. Two tickets to the Secret Summit, March 27th and 28th. You're going to meet Emma, you're going to meet Justin, you're going to meet Nicoline, you're going to meet Mark, you're going to meet Ryan, everyone from the treasure hunting world. It's going to be one heck of an incredible way I can't wait to see all the YouTube videos that come out of it after it's over. But let's uh let me bring up the drawing screen. I had the wrong screen up. All right, here we go. And so far I've heard from my moderators all three people were here. All three winners are getting it. So thank you everybody for hanging in there. All right, Doug, we're back to you again. Let's give a drawing. Give me the drum roll. This is going to be for two tickets to the Secret Summit courtesy of Emma, Jam, and Justin. All right, get it going. Teamwork, Doug. I'm going to do back-to-back drawings. Here we go. Back-to-back. Cage Trail. I I I bet you know him. He's I'm I'm going to Well, listen. I don't know if he would want to give them to anybody or not. I'll >> That's okay. If he does, he does. If not, I will refund the cost of the ticket that he already paid for. All right, there you go, Cage Trail. You still >> going to be picking up a treasure digital wallet from me when he gets there that he won on our show a couple weeks ago. Oh man, that guy wins everything. >> He's a winner. He's a winner. We got to bring him with us, Doug. We need to bring him with Oh wait, I just see hold on. I just saw a thing from him. Uh it's going quickly. Hey, I appreciate it. Please give him to someone else. All right, I'm going to redraw. I'm going to redraw. He's so lucky. Do the drum roll again? Yes, you do. Yes, you do. And thank you, Cage. >> do a great drum roll. Go ahead, Doug. I got a great tongue. It's a PG show, Doug. It's a PG show. Yeah, it's okay. >> [laughter] >> All right, here we go. Thank you, Cage, for your generosity. All right, the winner two tickets for the Secret Summit, Bill Murks. Do you know Bill? >> know Bill. All right, Bill Murks, congratulations, Bill. Uh please put your zip code in the chat and you just won yourself two tickets to the Secret Summit. We're going to do another draw for two more tickets right now. So keep your eyes out for Bill and the second person, good luck. Oh, look at that, Doug. All right, let's see here. Cajun Way Metal Detecting. All right, looks like someone from our universe. That's my people. >> Our people now. That's right. We are combining forces. Cajun Way Metal Detecting, congratulations. Please put your zip code in the chat and then both winners uh email me after the show, please. quarterhoarder@yahoo.com and that way we can just make sure you are who you say you are. So let me bring up my other ones here. I got a And listen, I want to open it up uh Doug um into the chat. Listen, any questions, put them in. I don't want to keep Emma all night. I have a few more myself, but I want everyone's questions to get answered. I'm going to try to pay attention. Doug, keep your eye in the chat Yep. because there were some questions earlier and I missed them. So I'm going to try to uh to keep an eye on it. >> I did want to I did want to uh say that if anyone has not seen the Netflix gold and and greed um um was it uh three three uh segments three 1-hour segments that they should watch it for a number of reasons but one of our own does a cameo in that and that's Ken King. Yes, uh when the treasure was found a friend of ours Ken who does a live show on the in the metal detecting space um you know during his live show he did like some crazy reaction of wow it was found and Netflix used that you know 2-second soundbite of Ken uh so shoutout to Ken for making the show. Uh actually made the uh Netflix show. Um people are asking is the uh Secret Summit going to be a yearly thing Emma or is this a one-and-done sort of an event? Well I guess we're going to have to see how it goes. I know people have really it's really a collaboration right? And so it's about like what works for people what people need the need of the the hunters and I think that we need this. I think that again that like-mindedness that can become kind of a wind tunnel if your if your circle's too small you get out here and you see these things plus there's such an opportunity you know to to get out and hear the different way people are looking at things and different kinds of hunts that are going on. It's a great opportunity to kind of be all-inclusive. Yes, I agree. I mean like I said we just got back Doug and I from a detecting hunt convention sort of a thing to be able to hang around with like-minded people make friends you know you could argue that that's the real treasure honestly. I mean that's the best part of it all. Um money comes and money goes but the friendships you make that is what your legacy truly that's your legacy that's what life's all about. So I behoove you if you're on the fence and you've never done anything like that even if you enjoy the process of the treasure hunt but you don't actively seek it out I still think you're going to have a great time and go and hobnob with other people that share the same passions you do. Well and his book is amazing. Like his book as a standalone has incredible stories in it. They're incredible stories. It's a great read. Yes, well good good for that. Now besides even all the speakers can you tell what else is going to be at the event because I thought I read you're having a hot dog eating contest? >> [laughter] >> Well >> Don't invite Joey Chestnut. He's a dead ringer. So we are having a hot dog eating contest because you know why be normal? Let's be crazy. So uh one of our collaborators his name is Froggy he does Siss Quest. He has his own YouTube channel. Um he and my brother Jim well they smack talk each other in a fun kind of brotherly way and Froggy had said that he could eat I don't even remember the number it was something like 10 dozen donuts or something crazy like that and that is the beginning of how uh it rolls downhill and the next thing you know you've got a hot dog eating contest. So we're having a hot dog eating contest between Jim my brother Froggy and Chad Bird who again has his own treasure hunt creator himself and the three of them it'll be a a test to see how many hot dogs can be eaten in 5 minutes and I'm almost betting it's going to be like at the max of three per person after watching how hard it is. Now you mentioned Chad Bird I'm not as familiar with his hunt. I'm going to bring it up I saw he was another treasure hunt like John Towns Breaux. Can you explain what his how does it how does it work? So Chad Bird um he you know if you've ever seen the movie Ready Player One Chad Bird has a crypto quest and turned it into like his own virtual game. It is it's it's literally all first of all it's 100% free. So a lot of these other things like you got to pay for a book I mean it's not like you're you're worried about investing but this is 100% free. Chad was also a Forest Fenn hunter and Forest really inspired people to go out and be like give back and create something beautiful and Chad said hold my beer I'm going to do something big and so he had been he's a he had been collecting cryptocurrency. He has hidden 15,000 different cryptocurrencies in a geode and it's I don't know if he's eliminated any states but originally I want to say it was like Arkansas Texas Oklahoma and New Mexico I feel like I'm missing a state. And so Chad's they've kind of shrunk it down and there's there's some parameters for where it is on the longitude or is it latitude whichever one of the L words that I can never remember and it's hidden out there in one of these areas that I keep calling Texas just cuz that's where I think it is and not that I'm being biased of course but and so it's just sitting out there and so he too has this multi-million dollar hunt so he's going to do a Q&A and my brother Jim is going to interview him and he's in addition to that you know because you talked about the milestones the milestones are huge and there's so many crazy cool milestones Chad personally donated and curated what curated what we're calling the Ring of Power and it's like the Super Bowl ring of all Super Bowl rings for treasure hunting. All the diamonds are still with diamonds. I wish I had a picture of it. When we hit 1384 that's one of the giveaways. Another thing too is that 1750 was originally what it's going to be he would eliminate a county from each of his states where his treasure could be found but last night on our show he changed that to fit at 1500 he will eliminate a county. So it's this massive hunt happening out there. He's got a discord called the big brains that you know that all get together and they talk about it. He's always on YouTube doing taking questions and answering questions and you know he's just like the most generous kind guy who's like hey let's get out there and find some treasure together. Oh also I hid one too why don't you go look for that. And then his online presence he's made all these games within games. He's had so many side quests including things like a Christmas tree like it let's give out give away $500 for a Christmas tree. He made another side quest for seeking treasure hunt I mean there's tons of there's one right now too you can put a submit a movie. There's there's so many there's one about a Sasquatch I don't really understand it so can't speak to it but there's so many side quests within his side quest at treasureor.quest. Oh wow that sounds really cool. I wish I don't say I wish Doug and I are going to an event that happens to be the same weekend and I love the event in the metal detecting world but um man it would have been a tough decision if we weren't because this sounds like a lot of fun and I really would love to have been out there for it. I'm looking through the chat to get some questions in. Uh I have one here from uh Dr. C Treasure Hunter. Uh has anyone spoken about the format of the Secret Summit treasure hunt? Is it an onsite hunt or do we need to plan to drive somewhere else etc.? Okay so no it's all onsite you don't have to drive drive anywhere. Hey Dr. C it's good to see you. Um okay so you don't have to drive anywhere it's all right there on the location. We recommend that you bring a cell phone. Remember it is a skill-based treasure hunt and you must be 21 years old to participate. Um so if you're under 21 you don't get to participate at all. State of Arizona says no. Um the one thing Justin recommends is that you bring a piece of paper and a pen you know and so that you can do that and that's really all the guidance he's given us. I'm sorry I'm just bringing up other things as you're going over it all. >> okay. No no no that's the big brains for for Chad Bird's treasureor.quest that's fantastic discord that you should definitely be jumping out onto it. Yeah I'm bringing it up and now I noticed in your milestones there was one here I'll bring it up full screen that it looks like when you hit 1111 there's going to be Now I got to ask like 1111 that's a weird number like am I looking into it too much is that a clue like [laughter] >> It's the very first thing everybody said but >> Yeah it's a weird number. Yeah it's a very well it's considered there's like there's angel references there's divinity references there's there's so many references that make 1111 significant but the very next night Justin went on a YouTube channel interview called X Marks the Pod and he basically said it was just the number that came to us. I don't know about that Doug that's I think he's I think he's throwing you off the uh off >> would have a field day with that. >> [clears throat] >> His book is filled with so many numbers a numerologist would be like I know exactly where it is and they get there and they be without. Yeah. >> Yeah there there's your brother Jim again giving more information on on the other hunt Chad Bird's hunt. Um and that information for Chad is also on the treasureor.quest website. Okay there's a link to that below in the description check it out it sounds like a lot of fun. It's a lot of fun. So many cool it's like little video games it kind of just reminds me of like the 80s you know and it's like it's progressive and it's all building on top it's just a lot of fun. That's the thing it's like these are people who just want to have a good time and hang out and do things and like be buddies and that's who these people are and they're like oh yeah by the way there's also a few million dollars out there. We're going to do we're going to do real quick we're going to do another giveaway Has anyone responded to the first? I have not from the moderators the last two winners of the tickets have not responded. I'll give them a little bit more or we're still going to give two more sets courtesy of Emma. We're going to save the book and the big detector towards a a little bit later on the end but we're getting close to it. But I'm going to do two more back-to-back four tickets and again each ticket is for two people so you plus one and if you win just let me know you're here put your zip code in. Are they transferable Emma? If someone wins and they say oh my god I live in Hawaii I can't get there but can I give it to my cousin Stacy? >> Yes. I mean I have I have control of that so if you'd like to give it to somebody else you have a specific person with an email address I can go ahead and send it there. >> we go. So if you win and you know you can't make it for whatever reason hey listen you can re-gift it you'll be someone's hero and if they win the 10 grand maybe you get 5% what do you think Doug? Maybe you get a little bit. So we're going to do two more back-to-back each each draw here will be for two tickets to the Secret Summit. Again it's in like what like 2 weeks Emma right? Week and a half? >> Actually next week. >> Next weekend so listen listen throw your feet to the fire. Get out and do something. >> Miss Hotels for All. >> Yeah, listen, live life a little bit. Go give yourself an adventure. You're going to meet a lot of people. You might win some money. Go have fun. Let's do another one. Emma, it's your turn for the drum roll. Okay, I'll do my best. All right. That's awesome. Wow, you're gifted You're gifted You're a gifted very gifted drum roller. Congratulations. Here we go. We're going to go back-to-back. We've got Fluffnugget. I don't know Fluffnugget. >> know Fluffnugget. I mean, all of these seem familiar to me, but that's just cuz I think I know everybody. I like the avatar. That's from that >> it looks like a beaker. No, it's from that movie with The Rock when he was like the the the I forget what it's called. Whatever. >> Oh, with the in the Hawaii where >> Right, the Hawaii Rock thing. That's the chicken they kept throwing over. >> You're Welcome song that gets stuck in Yes, I like that song. I like it. I don't know. I don't know the song. That song gets You know what's stuck in my head right now this week? Is that double Dutch bus song. Have you heard that, Emma? >> YES, I'M FAMILIAR I I DO that I do it on the way to the morning on the way to get my coffee. >> [laughter] >> That's all Yeah, that's what you need in the morning with your coffee to wake you up. >> I'm a grown man. I'm going to hurt myself. >> Moana, Moana. >> Thank you, Moana. Yes, thank you. Thank you very much. And if >> If anybody out there does the double Dutch dance in their own living room, please admit it. Doug, one more drum roll. We're going to do back-to-back. Oh, okay. Fluffnugget is here. Congratulations, Fluffnugget. Fluffnugget. Go ahead, Doug. Let's do another one. Two tickets. Good luck. >> good, Doug. Oh, he's been practicing in front of a mirror. Two more tickets to the big event. >> Big Wave Dave DCL. Look at that mercury dime right in the center. I think >> That's a dime. That's got to be a dime. 1916 dime. That's treasure, Emma. In our world, that's treasure. That's what I think. I'm going to have to get my I'm going to have to get my metal detector and get out there and go finding stuff. Where I live is super, you know, Civil War rich. And then maybe even American the Revolution. I don't know. I should There's some Revolution, yeah. Yes, there is. Yep. The whole East Coast is an amazing for our hobby. But listen, wherever you live, you know, there's going to If you live on the West Coast, you probably got a better shot of gold nuggets than we do out here. Everywhere has their own niche. Well, actually, North Carolina is actually the first gold rush. Oh, I think I did hear that. I think I did hear that. I think I think annually it's the number eight gold producing state in the country. Doug, you know some stuff, friend. Yes, yeah. Now, a lot of the things he says are completely inaccurate. >> Yeah, you got to fact-check real life. >> IT ON JAMS. YEAH, we just I just do a lot of this. Oh, oh, yeah. Oh, I do that, too. Oh. >> I think I think I heard that North Carolina is known for its emeralds, though, Doug. Is that right? Um that I don't know. I I could be wrong. >> you can go hunt for them, but I've never been there. Okay. Talking about emeralds, in the you know, back if we jump back to Justin's book and his treasure, I heard in the treasure he had said there's a lot of gems and I'm going to bring it up right now on my other screen. Uh do you know any more about the treasure that's in that besides what we already said of what else is in there? Are you that familiar with it at all? So, I would say this. I know no more than everybody else. Well, I'm just from his website. Right, no. But when you go, there's there's gems There's a lot of things he This curated. So, like he took time to pick the exact things He wasn't just like, "Oh, look, I've got this stack of coins over here. Let's throw that in there, too." Although I bet he did kind of do that. There's a scene when he opens his safe on Golden Greed and you just see stacks of coins and gold bars and all that. And I suspect that [clears throat] there's a lot of all of it. There are gems. There's Again, there's the the dragon bracelet. The biggest joke right now is that somebody's going to show up to our event with the dragon bracelet on. I got one. Big Wave Dave was not able to make it. We're going to give it away. We'll do it again in the second when we do the last one. And to read off of Justin's website here, uh he says that inside the treasure chest are those Pamp Suisse kilogram bars that were $160,000 each. He's got gold Britannias. He's got Australian gold ducats, Canadian gold maple leafs, American gold eagles, loose emeralds, rubies, amethysts, historical artifacts like silver half staters, ancient Lidias. I don't even know what that is. Uh the oak tree shilling. Uh he's got the Bitcoin that Emma said. I mean, it is action-packed. I mean, it's it's an amazing thing. When you find that, can you imagine Look on that person's face, Doug. Oh. I hope he has a trail cam just to get the WHAT YOU KNOW. 60 LB. DOUG, YOU'D HAVE TO TAKE 19 trips. Yeah. Doug hasn't lifted 60 lb in 47 years. Um but that would that would be Now, Emma, you said you have boots on the ground and you've been looking for it. Yeah. Now, I don't want you to tell anyone your potential solve. Well, there's shorts everywhere from all the places I go, so. Oh, okay. Well, then well, then have Do you think that you might be on to something or you're not quite sure? Are you feeling it out or you think like, "Oh, man, this next trip, I think we might be on to something." I'm going back to a location this when there's no snow on the ground. Oh, okay. Is there still snow Oh, so it's You think it's >> Montana, which is where And I Everybody knows they tease me cuz I'm in Montana. There's snow in Montana my location, so. Oh, so you think it's in Montana. So, you're giving away you're giving away your clue. Okay. >> you watch our show, if you've seen my shorts, people know that there's a It's actually there's a large number of people who think it's Montana. There's a lot I should say this. I would bet it's equally divided. There's places I don't think it is, obviously. Then there's people I places I hope it isn't like Alaska. But I'm just going to ask that question. Is it all 50 states included or the contiguous 48? It's actually called the American West. And so, if you look in the book, there's actually a map. Hold on, I'll show it to you. There's actually a map of what is available. It might be on the I don't actually think it's on Treasure Quest. You'd think I'd know that by heart, but I don't. And I'm almost have the book in my lap. Oh, I wrote all over this book. We won't be giving this one away. It's Oh, there it goes. Okay, so here it is. It's basically like can't This is a bad picture. I apologize. But you see how it's basically from that line over to the west. Oh. It's not the Mississippi, but pretty much it lines up with the edge of like Wyoming and Montana. >> Montana, Idaho. >> And then yeah, it's got Colorado in it. Colorado, Utah. A little chunk of Texas like just a sliver. It's like, "Oh, and this little tiny piece of Texas." Um and then it just kind of goes over. >> those states back in 2019. Yes, the map is on the website. Again, there's a link in the description. >> Yeah, I can't I can't bring it up. So, so So, by seeing that picture the map and forgive me because I'm not an active seeker, uh are Is everyone agreeing that it must be then uh from the the the west side of America that's not on the East Coast? Is that Is that the Justin >> He has clarified that it is on the map. Oh, so And that map only shows, you know, the the left half of the country. So, right off the bat, you've eliminated the entire east of the Mississippi. >> Thank goodness. Thank goodness. >> I mean, that I mean, listen listen, you're looking for >> sucks if you live on the East Coast. No, it doesn't. You maybe you can Yeah, you get to see some of the country. Right. >> I've been there twice. Why are you being a glass-half-empty curmudgeon, Doug? Why are you being a curmudgeon? [laughter] I I I do >> You're retired, Doug. You can get in your car and go Yeah, Doug. I did several times. I do want to ask Do you know enough I wanted to ask Justin, but do you know enough Is this just a young person's game or >> No. could an old fart like me manage his way through the There are old men farting out on all these trails all across [laughter] America. NO, IT'S ABSOLUTELY NOT AN OLD man's game. You watch Golden Greed. DO YOU KNOW WHO I SEARCHED in Montana with? Cynthia. Cynthia is 70. I don't think when you get I never >> the show. Yep, Cynthia. Cynthia meets She's she's she's a hottie. She's a firecracker, too. She's a firecracker. She's beautiful. She's beautiful and she's funny and she's charming and she is hilarious. And she got me to accidentally swear on video while we Cynthia meets you. She's a lot of fun and she's she's in it and she's great. And you know, but she's 70 and she's out there. I would say there is as many people 50 plus as there are 50 and under. Yeah, Cynthia was what a firecracker she was on the show. Really enjoyed all all her statements. Um Oh, let me see. Let me see. Well, uh I'm One of my moderators was asking me a good question if I should change the hashtag. Um it would be too difficult, Bree, because I can't do two at the same time, but it was a good idea. I think she's They're not seeing some of the some of the ticket winners replying. So, we'll try it again. If If there's Bree, how many sets do I have left? Uh they didn't really mind. I'd like to get people out there. So, if someone couldn't make it, if they're not collecting, I'd like to give an opportunity to get them in hands. Listen, they're going for Guinness Book of World Records. I need people in the door. So, come on, guys. Right. And your milestone marker is a little bit behind. We hit 800 about an hour and a half ago. Yeah, my milestone marker is a little behind. It's okay. That's okay. And listen, you get to 1111, they're going to release new clues. Someone in the chat earlier said if I buy like 100 tickets, will will Justin release a clue? The The attendance is up on the screen. I mean Go ahead. Go ahead. I didn't mean to cut you off, Emma. No, no, no, you're fine. I would say I would We're The goal is it's to break the record. That's why we're pushing for 2,000. So, you know, the intent was if we if we have 2,000, we don't have to worry. The The Guinness Book of World Records actually declines 80% of submissions. So, we want to make sure that we go above and beyond that 1384. Uh So, they can't turn it down. Right. Oh, so all you only have to get to 1384, which is an obtainable number. Yeah, 1384 totally I mean, at that point we're literally in a stone's throw from 1384. A stone's throw. Justin and I are on Tucson Now on Thursday uh next Thursday we'll be on Tucson Now. I mean, that's a local show. How do we not drive people in from that? If you if you knew you had a chance to use your brain and spend $25 to go potentially win find $10,000 worth of treasure and it's the layer five seeker's bounty treasure, you Who wouldn't Who wouldn't sign up for that? I mean, $25 for the possibility of 10,000. Do the math. Please don't ask me to. It's worth every penny. Now, the real question on people's minds is what do they win if they win the hot dog eating contest? Oh, a stomach [laughter] ache. I hope they don't win a bowl of barf. I really >> [laughter] >> hope that that's not what happens. Do you have bags? I bought a trophy. OH, THERE REALLY IS? There really is? >> a trophy. It's a hot dog. It's gold and there's so much crazy stuff like people are bringing children. So, you saw the tickets for for $15 for anybody 21 and under and that's because we have to account for whoever is there. So, you have to have a ticket. Um and so, the 21 and under um is really anybody who's, you know, not able to do the hunt. But like for the actual children, I mean, we've got stuff they're going to be able to paint birdhouses and like paint by number like actual things. Um there's going to just be tons of arts and crafts for younger kids to do. We did We did our very best to have something for everybody and continue to encourage uh families to get out and have fun. Yeah, here was one. I don't even know what this means. I mean, this guy is really really smart. Uh >> [laughter] >> It says it's a >> I'm telling you, he's actually the person who named Seeker's Summit. >> Oh, I don't even know what that mean I don't even know what a geofence is, but it sounds like a like a just a a a a a [laughter] a a a a a >> campaign and that's a great idea, Alex. >> a dog fence. Yeah, yeah, like some of the comments like we're we're very lowbrow here, Alan. You got to dumb it down with your comments for us. >> [laughter] >> But he's not wrong and already just so you know, Alan Chadburn has been doing that through Facebook. There we go. There we go. Um can seekers compete? This is from Cage Trail. Can seekers compete? I'm not sure what that means. Emma, do you Does that make sense to you? So, yeah, I mean, yeah, so all seekers at Seeker's Summit can compete except for Jam. Jam's not eligible and Froggy's not eligible. Anybody who's part of the, you know, the correlation that are are combination of people who put this together, they're not eligible. But everybody who bought a ticket and you're there and you're 21 and over and you bring your ID and you can prove you're 21 and over, you can compete for that. There was a comment here from 3D Bronze. >> I bet he meant for the hot dog eating contest. Oh, maybe. Maybe. I'm sorry, Cage. >> Unfortunately, we have limited to these three lunatics who apparently [clears throat] want to eat a bunch of hot dogs. Um mainly cuz I don't want the liability if I'm honest and if one of them chokes, I'm going to laugh at them and then get their bags. Hey, listen, I Yeah, they do that in my area right right on the New York, New Jersey shore and the winner every year is a tiny little Asian guy, Doug. >> Yeah, Joey Chestnut and the the girl she's a Asian. She wins like 60, 70 hot dogs. It's unbelievable. Yeah, that's crazy. There was a question from 3D Bronze uh quarter horse air metal There's metal detecting conferences every day. Ditch that event and come to the Listen, if it was any other detecting event, I would. I >> too important. >> I love these people in uh that we're going to down in Missouri. So, this one I can't. If it was any other one, I would. Um but I appreciate >> is a member of our treasure hunting community and he's actually 3D He's He's got a website where he has printed John Collins Black's uh He's got permission to print the boxes for John Collins Black. So, that's a Pokémon box from John's book. And I want to say this one is a past and future. He sent them to me. Like he These are the same the replicas of the boxes. 3D Bronze prints and sells these on his website. Nice. He's also doing his own treasure hunt called Agents versus Aliens, which should be released this summer. Wow, that's great. You never know who's showing up in these rooms. Yeah, we had John on. John was a John Collins Black. He was a great guy. Uh the only interview that uh he he he asked me to not do live, which I was reluctant at first, but it really worked out good. I I had a good time. That was my first dip into the treasure searching world, you know, where ours is a lot more You don't even know there's a treasure out there. Where it's just uh you need a lot of a lot of a lot of a lot >> Well, a lot of what we do is on faith. You know what I mean? Because like you know, I mean, I suspect and I don't want to speak for your community. When you go out there, you have an idea that there's a likelihood that you're going to find something. I mean, you know, there's We we have that immediate gratification. Right. But in our world, you put together the ideas of the possibility and then you tie it all down and you go out and you hope to find something and more often than not you're coming home empty-handed. Yeah, uh we we have some of those days, too. Yep. >> Um and talking to Mark uh from Nokta Detectors, who's going to be there as a vendor um with with his own little booth with or however you're setting it up. Uh he said there's going to be live music, too. You're doing some sort of a mixer on Friday night. >> Friday night. Yeah, uh Billy Shaw Jr. band is coming out and he's actually is much as he's this tremendous uh band and well-known in the Tucson area, he's also a hunter and he's known Justin for years and actually sent Justin a signed CD. So, when I was looking for somebody, he said, "Hey, this guy's awesome." and they just happened to be available. So, they'll be out there. Friday night is the mixer night where people are just getting together. You know, and so Billy Shaw Jr. His band is I went and listened to all the music. It's fantastic. Really? Yeah, yeah, it's country. I mean, he's got some other stuff, too. He's got a lot of great stuff. Yeah, it's You know, fun with a twang. That's one of Doug's favorite genres. Here's a question I and I forgot about this. This is from Matt. Uh glad to see you're part of the hunt. I found Brad Martin's Vault of the Grail. Uh in our community, one of the metal detecting channels, our good friend Brad from Green Mountain Metal Detecting, uh hid a treasure a few years ago, gave clues in his videos and I forgot that he did that. Yeah, this guy found it. It was very successful. I'm kind of surprised that our worlds haven't crossed before. You know what I mean? Cuz it's very very similar. Well, Matt Matt Goldfinder is one of the very first people I met when I went out to Montana for the first meet and greet that I ever did. And Matt was there and since then we became great friends. He's actually part of our panel on safety. He's going to spray my husband down with an inert bear spray. Oh, oh, that that sounds like an >> to get him to use regular bear spray, but he's like, you know, I'm worried about the other people. So, we're going to use the inert and uh he and and Matt is like a he's a he lives in Montana himself. He's a big big hunter and he he helps people constantly as they come out. He meets up with with other hunters. They get together. They go search for their hunt together. There was another super chat here from Zeus's Father, which is an awesome name, Doug. I would I wish your name was Zeus's Father. Uh it says free free Emma. I don't know what that means. Is that an inside joke on your channel, Emma? >> We always We have a running joke of free Scott. Scott is my husband and he actually goes everywhere and one time I said he wasn't coming to something cuz his day job is as a teacher. And so, ever since then people think I hold him back from going to stuff. I was like, "Free Scott. Free Scott." Like he's the [laughter] guy in charge of controlling everybody. Uh there's Nokta Mark still in the chat. He's coming for the band. He's excited He was excited. Uh I was talking to him all this morning. They're really excited to be coming out. You know, to get metal detecting in front of uh a crowd that isn't necessarily metal detecting, but has that treasure hunt energy. I think it's going to be a really exciting mix of the worlds and who knows? I think we're both ends are going to are going to come out of it uh >> uh excited. What an opportunity. You know, what an opportunity. Is this an in inside or outside venue? Thankfully, with all this 100° heat, it is inside. We're at the Tucson Expo Center. All right, good. Good. >> Yes, if you go to the Seeker's I was trying to bring it up on my screen, but when I when I bring it up, I'll try it again. For some reason, I'm getting this weird Well, hold on. What are you looking for? Well, I I had the map here and then I have a a tab of your Seeker's Summit that does have If I scroll down the venue here, Yep. uh it'll show where it's at. It goes over the entire This is again the seekerssummit.org website. Goes over the entire itinerary for all day Friday, uh all day Saturday, doors open, live music. Goes over all the speakers, a brief thing of what they're going to talk about. It goes over the hunt. It goes over the hot dog eating contest. Uh breaks everything down. On the site, you can look up at the top, you know, the schedule of event, all the speakers, uh each person what they're contributing as far as information, stories, whatever they do. Like she said, Justin, Chad, Jared, the director of the Netflix show, Nicoline, uh the detectorist who I guess was here earlier and I apologize if I missed her. Cynthia from the show. So many people. We're We're We're the We're We're We're the family. They weren't able to make it. I forget their names. They're not able TO MAKE IT. BUT YOU SEE, YOU HAVE IT HERE. Lou B and Sherry, they're in it. Lou B is the He actually has uh YouTube channel for snakes like for snakes. Oh, was that the airplane guy? WAS THAT THE PILOT? YES. YES. YES. I REMEMBER. YEAH. He will be on our show. We have a We do a call-in show every other every once in a while on Fridays called New Phone, Who Dis? And we talk treasure. When people call in, they ask questions. Lou B and Sherry will be on our show tomorrow night to answer questions about Forrest Fenn's hunt, uh There's Treasure Inside, and Beyond the Map's Edge and Secret Summit. Well, fantastic. Yeah, it goes over everything. All your information, the venue, uh the sponsors again, you know, we got involved because Nokta Detectors is a sponsor. Uh I believe uh Ryan, metaldetectingshop.com, is also going to be there sponsor. So, some worlds are colliding. It should be a really good It's a whole list on here uh of all the information. And again, I have also the website up if I come over here. Uh Justin's website wasn't working earlier. Yeah. But, the map and then like I said, here was the map where he's hidden that treasure somewhere on the left side of the country. Well, he's also including Alaska in there. So, Yes. Yes. I don't see Hawaii, though, but Alaska >> No Hawaii. I wish. I would I would really bad like Hawaii. I have a feeling Emma will be telling her husband every weekend, "I really think it's in Hawaii. We got to go back." >> Looks like it's Hawaii. I've [laughter] got plenty of reasons. He's like, "Honey, we checked this part of the beach." "I want to check it again." We didn't have the right kind of metal detector. [laughter] I just learned that there's more than one kind. Uh yeah, but it goes into Justin's whole story, which he did touch on in the Netflix show, uh the treasure, uh some pieces of the map, links to his book, uh everything. Again, if you have good eyes, you can see the website up here, but it is in the uh description of the show. Uh everything you need. I didn't even realize they had he had an audiobook. Who Did he get a good reader for the audiobook, Emma? He did. I mean, the guy's got he's good. Um it's funny cuz he gives us permission to read all the time. Like I My mom was like, "Hey, can I permission to read?" Cuz it's it says you can't use his content without permissions. I always say, "Hey, I'm going to read a chapter." I was asked to read a chapter. Um and so, we'll go on on our live and I'll read a chapter, too. But, he did he did better than me. Okay, good. We have a great time and we have a lot of people who like will put up posts where like in Discord they read the chapters and it's really kind of cool to hear the different ways of inflection change the story. Oh, absolutely. How you read it is such a big part of it. Oh, and there's Zeus's father again. Good to see you live. We'll be at the Secret Summit. So, uh congratulations. I'm glad you're going. Hope you have a really good time and I can't wait to see updates. >> Thanks, Tyler. Uh from uh Emma. Oh, there there was another one there. Hold on a second. I missed one here. I apologize. Hi, guys. Love the content. Any chance you'll be in and around Michigan? Oh, that was a metal detecting thing. Um we will be in Iowa. There might be a Michigan one. I will let you know. Any events we go to, I'll announce uh on the Tuesday video. >> Lost Yes, at the moment I'm not sure. Um I'm just looking to see if I missed any other ones. We're going to do another giveaway. Um why don't we do it? We're going to do a good one, Doug. We're going to give away uh I didn't hear from the ticket people. So, we're going to give away two more packages because I'm going to dismiss them. Froggy uh is sending him on. So, we're going to do two more back-to-back. And then after that, we're going to do Justin's signed book, which Emma graciously threw at us during the show. Uh so, she's going to get the book and she's going to have Justin sign it at the event. You'll get your own signed copy. So, we're going to go three in a row. So, uh good luck. The first two will be for two tickets again. And if you can't make it, listen, give them away to a loved one. You'll be the hero of your family. I'm telling you that's how life works. So, uh make sure you pick them up. We're trying to fill the uh fill the event up. So, if you can't go, you know someone that can go. I know you do. So, uh help share the wealth here. Um Emma, it's your turn. Drumroll for two tickets to the Secret Summit. She's good. Doug, Doug, you're fired. You're fired, Doug. She's good. Good. All right, two tickets. Good job, Doug. You can keep it. There we go. Johnny Pop Top. Oh, that sounds like a metal detecting name. Yes, it is. Johnny Pop Top, if you hear, put your zip code in the uh in the description in the chat, please. You just got to yourself two tickets to the Secret Summit show Friday and Saturday. And we're going to do one more back-to-back. It's your turn, Doug. I'm going to have Doug do the book. Okay, perfect. >> him do the book. >> You're practicing, Doug. Why don't we do a duet? Amy H328. Okay, I could do this with you, friend. Oh, about you we'll do one simultaneous. I like that. Amy H328, congratulations. Put your zip code in the chat. You've got yourself two tickets to next weekend's Secret Summit. If you can't make it, give them to a loved one. Don't tell me you can't do it. Come on, I know you can. Well, and I saw two quick things in the chat. There is we One of the things we do use metal detectors for is called the Southern Trappers. These guns that were hidden out in kind of on the South Carolina border. And I can't wait to choose a Nokta um detector so I can go out there and find those dang things cuz I have been all over that island that you you see in the movie Freedom Glory, the movie Glory. Oh, yes. Yes. They've got to be there, but I had to I didn't know there was more than one kind of metal detector. There's a way that you metal detect. I cannot wait to get a a Nokta metal detector and get out there and find those Yes, I heard Justin actually say that in an interview somewhere where he said uh he said, "Yeah, I've I've metal detected since I was a kid." And then someone said, "Oh, what's the difference?" And he goes, "Ah, they're all just the same." And I was like, "Bite your tongue, young man." That's like me saying every every book is the same. Mark and Ryan will give you a dissertation at the event, Emma. I cannot wait. I'm so excited. for different things. If you want to find gold, it's a different detector than if you're going under the water. I had no clue. They'll put the right one in your hands for you to have some success and find treasure that was not meant to be found ever again, which is exciting. Yeah. Let's also do the book, Doug. Now, this is a good one from Emma. This is going to be for John This is going to be for um for Justin Posey's book, Beyond the Map's Edge, that Emma is going to have him sign. I guess you can inscribe it to insert whatever your name is. Uh and then it will mail it out after the event. So, really cool prize and then you are thrown into the chat uh thrown into the hunt when you have the possible code in front of you. So, I will do this one, Doug, and give you a break of your tongue. We'll do it We'll do it all together. We'll all DO IT TOGETHER. GOOD PRIZE. All right, let's go. 3 2 1. Good luck. Signed copy of Beyond the Map's Edge by Justin Posey, courtesy of Emma. >> were out of key, J. I I was definitely ran out of energy in the middle. Oh, look at that name. The Infamous, spelled with like numbers and letters. That sounds like a That's That's a good one. I am not That sounds like a guy who knows his crypto treasure. Uh put your name your zip code in the chat. You've just won yourself the signed copy of Beyond the Map's Edge, courtesy of Emma, that you will get after next weekend's show. Uh the Infamous one. There it is. I see it in there. Uh he he's in there. He did put He didn't He didn't do the one thing I asked him to do. He didn't do the one thing I should have done. Put your zip code in there. Put your Put your zip code in there. Uh we're going to go for like maybe 10 more minutes and then we'll do the last prize, courtesy of metaldetectingshop.com, the Triple Score metal detector, two coils, Bluetooth uh uh headphones. I mean, what an incredible package that's going to be. We'll try to eke 10 more minutes out of Emma. She's going live again tomorrow. She's going to be hoarse soon. But, I want to open it up to questions in the chat before we get out of here. So, if you have any other questions from my show, please put them in. If not, you can go check out Emma's YouTube channel tomorrow night. Treasure hunt with us and get your questions in if I don't see them tonight. Again, Zeus's father. Wow, this guy is in there. So, wait. Every attendee No. No. No. No. No. No. No. No. We did one today. We did one today, Tyler. But, Justin is selling books that he'll sign. He's got a small amount. If you want to get a signed book while you're there, anything you buy from Justin's booth goes back to the crypto uh Bitcoin wallet. So, just remember that. That's the intent. There we go, Justin. And Zeus said Zeus's father Justin, I'm guessing his name. His name is Justin also? No. No, that's Tyler. That's Tyler. I think that's Tyler G. Tyler G, okay. Uh well, Tyler, it sounds like you're going out there already. So, yeah, I know you'll be there. Got to get there early. Got to get there early. Uh Nokta Mark is still trying to sell things. I'm looking for in the chat for questions. Yes, the Triple Score is coming up, probably 5 or 10 minutes. Uh someone said, "Where's Indiana Jones?" He had to catch a flight. We had him for a good half an hour or so. Uh you can go back and watch the show uh for more Justin. Uh let me see. Oh, the Infamous one. Uh the Infamous did get his zip code, so congratulations. You've got your I will Emma, I will send you his information later. All winners, you have to email me your full name, address, and I think a phone number. Nokta needs that for DHL. I won't I will Listen, I'm not going to call you. Don't worry about it. But, I need your name and address. >> Yeah. Uh just email me name, shipping address. I don't care if you mail it to your house, your mom's house, your cousin, the local pizza place. >> Doug's like, "What are you wearing?" Yeah. Yeah, I won't give it to Doug. Doug is creepy. Uh Adrian Tucker said, "Does the AccuPoint work with the Deus 2?" The AccuPoint works with Bluetooth headphones, not necessarily that. So, if the Deus 2 uses Bluetooth uh headphones, it would work, but I can't say for sure. I don't have a Deus 2. Uh let me see here. And you only need to put trea- the hashtag treasure in once. If you did it earlier, it's not like you get extra chances. Once you're in one, the software is smart enough to know. Yes, good for all. Um Matt F39 uh the I'll be at the summit. Well, you'll see that hat. All right, so I guess it ends with that. I'm just looking for any questions or looking for the summit. Uh boo >> [laughter] >> Boom Monster wants to know where in the world is Carmen Sandiego. Emma, has that mystery been solved? Has anyone found her? No. Nobody's She's still missing. She's the treasure to find, I'm guessing. The last two people for the tickets got their uh zip codes in. Thank you, Johnny Pop Top and Amy H. Thank you very much. Um I did see Fluff Nugget wasn't able to go on the last one. We'll do the last set that Fluff Nugget's returning back for the last set and the triple score. Thank you for putting that in there. I got that from Ken, Adventures in Dirt, who is the our friend that made his cameo in the Netflix in the Netflix show. Uh let's see. I'm looking for any other questions. Get them in, guys. Last second because Emma's going to be a horse for tomorrow. We often go long here on the show, Emma. I'm not sure if I even gave you a time. It's only 20 minutes. Jay, I was thinking you ought to get involved in this heavily since you're like an expert at Pokémon Go. Wait, you're an expert at Pokémon Go? Well, I'm not I'm not an expert, but listen. Um He can hold his own. Uh do you do you play, Emma? I only play because the John Collins Black it's the first ever box that I I went after was Pokémon Go. Really? I play only cuz I my kids played 10 years ago. And then my kids lost interest and I listen, I'm finding a lot of Pokémon. I can't just abandon that account. So I Can't you can't. I mean >> No, listen. >> You're dedicated. Like you said, you're addicted. >> I my personality is so when I if I get involved in something, forget it. My whole life >> We're going to a hunting grounds. He'll he'll go 20 miles out of his way because he saw there's a Pokémon to uh to capture. All right, listen. I'm looking for more I just that's so crazy because in that Pokémon story, there's a Pokémon that's only been in the US like once and it's around the time John hit the treasure, which is the um I can't believe I can't think of it. It's like basically looks like a big elegant cockroach. Can't believe I can't think of the word. Pheromosa. It the Pheromosa. And it was there in the Buffalo National River at one of those like fighty center places. Oh wow. Yeah, there's some that never least released in America unless you do it on like the special like a You know that means you understand how people can create their own trails and then you have to be close to the trail to be able to use it. I have a theory that maybe that's what John's done. Oh, really? I didn't know John was that into the poke I mean I knew he was cuz he >> there's a whole story about the whole chapter of the Pokémon. I only had 20 minutes for John, so I could only get in so many questions on it. I that's how his he works. It's cool though. He's he's fantastic. He sent him well, his siblings came to one of our meet and greets up in Asheville. They were so fun. It was just fantastic. They he's got he's good people. Okay. He seems like a really nice guy. I mean he was nice enough to give me his time and we had a lot of fun with it. I can't believe how much I call legs that that interview had. I still get people emailing me. A woman emailed me like last week. She's like, can I can I take a a transcript of your interview for some Excel super spreadsheet I'm doing? Uh >> Oh, wow. Someone else is like, can you send me the uncut cuz I edited that interview. Can you send me the uncut edited? And I was like, well, no. No, I'm not going >> [laughter] >> Well, it's so funny cuz when you're interviewing him and his assistant's in the background and she's like, 4 minutes, 5 minutes. >> Yes. And you're like not prepared for it. We didn't we made them use StreamYard. Everybody else used Zoom. I'm like, we don't know how to do that cuz we're new we're new to treasure hunting and definitely new to YouTubing. And so we we didn't know what to expect. We felt so bad. We were like machine gunning, peppering him with questions. I mean he had to be terrified when he left the first one. The second interview he was really very prepared for us. Yeah, yeah. Once he gets to know you, I see he kind of gets cuz you know, of the many things he does, it's got to be overwhelming. Oh my goodness. There's Zeus's father again. Just so Emma knows, I'll be bringing my black Resistol cowboy hat. Resistol. Uh that has a rattlesnake hatband on it to remind JP of his rattlesnake story so I can tell JP my story. He's going to love that. He's going to love that. All right, Zeus's father, that's exciting, man. They're definitely going to recognize you. Um and I would love to see a picture of that uh that hat. >> There'll probably be 30 people wearing the same thing. Uh Danger Close said Smarties. I don't know if that's You had said you loved eating your Smarties. I'm always eating my Smarties. Yeah, you know what I'm a big fan of? Jelly beans. I love Jelly Belly jelly beans. Jelly Bellies. >> What's your flavor though? That's what's important. >> I like I like all >> a handful all together. I don't like black jelly beans. No, I throw all of them in the trash. Throw them all in the trash. I love the trash. But I can't eat Jack black black jelly beans when I'm eating other jelly beans. That's a it's got to be by itself. Yeah, the black ones just kind of ruins it for me. Um and I don't like the buttered popcorn. I don't know what it is. Yeah, that's cuz it's too it's sweet, but also like obnoxiously like uh salty. Yes, yes. Oh, here's a good question from Wool Acre. We kind of covered it earlier. Are these treasure hunts doable for beginners? I mean, do you think a beginner has a shot to get his book, open it up and maybe get lucky enough to find the treasure? >> Absolutely. Cuz really the reality is all of these hunts are about reading the words, sitting back and asking yourself, what's a clue and what's not a clue. And in the beginning it's almost overwhelming and and you know, but what I'll tell you is that you're going to start to see threads like common threads and themes and you're going to tie it together and then you'll go down the numerical rabbit hole. You know, we talked about numerology. You'll go down that cuz you're going to want to turn it into something that it is or it isn't. Um but it's absolutely doable for anybody at any stage. You know, you Doug you asked about age. One of the things it says is it's within a mile of where you park. Like so you're not hiking, you know, 40 miles to go find this thing. You know, I mean That's true. I've done, but yeah, it's doable. It's all very doable. It's very accessible. It's you know, it's like in Justin's he said you don't even need you can go in a low rider to go retrieve his his treasure. So you don't need any kind of special cars or anything like that. It's completely over or it's completely open to virtually everybody. All right, there we go. All right, we're going to do we're going to do the last giveaways here. Oh, there was another one from Zeus's father. My goodness. Let me [laughter] You got writer's cramp. Oh, oh, he's going on about his hat again. He's going >> [laughter] >> on about his hat. Zeus's father, email me a picture of your hat. I want to see what you look like in this hat. I'll put you in next week's show. He's got an interesting black and white feather, a bear paw. Wow, send me a photo. Pool a quarter order at yahoo.com. >> I want to see it. And I hope you listen, I hope you find that treasure chest out at the Secret Summit event. Um let me see, Doug. We're going to do the last one right here. We're going to do the triple score pro pack courtesy of metal detecting shop.com. Um a real highlight here. I was really surprised when they offered it up. Incredibly gracious of them. Uh like I said, I did the full tutorial video uh on the machine. I really loved it. Uh multi-frequency machine, single frequency, completely submersible, has all sorts of bells and whistles. Uh it's an advanced machine, but you can also turn it on and just go. So it's easy to use, but it has all these features that as your comfort level grows, you can really get years and years of work out of it. So I want to thank Ryan over at metal detecting shop.com for donating such a remarkable prize. And we're going to give it away right now. So let me bring it up. And we'll do the last two tickets, too, but since uh the last winner said he wasn't able to make it. I forget his name. Tough tough tough something or other. I forget. All right, so last two. The two tickets. The last two we gave away I heard of, so I think I only have four tickets claimed, I believe. This is going to be for the last two tickets. I good luck, guys. Claim the tickets. If you can't get it, put them on your local Facebook. Someone's going to want to go. You This is life-changing. >> Someone's going to want to go. They're going to want to go. It's a life-changing event. >> Who couldn't use $10,000? Who wouldn't want to go there and get inspired to go find millions of dollars? >> Right, or go hobnob with a Netflix director. I mean, who knows what that might lead to. Maybe you got some charisma. >> will be there? You'll be shocked and amazed. Nicola will be there. Everybody. So last two tickets. Come with it, guys. Here we go. Good luck. Last two tickets to the show, Secret Summit, next weekend. Good luck, everybody. Do do do do. Was that copyrighted that song? I'm not sure. >> Yes. B S A C. What is that, Doug? B S A C. Oh, B S A C. Come on, Doug. Let's spell it out. Spell it out, Doug. Come on. >> [laughter] >> B S A C. Come on, Doug. Come on. What does that mean? Let's see if that person's here. Let's hope that's his initials. Bob uh Scott Aaron. Bob Scott Aaron. Right. Taco Mondo. >> [laughter] >> All right, let's >> Aaron Charles for his first names. That sounds great. These are for the last two tickets. If you're here, put it in there. Uh I'm not sure if that's a shenanigans uh >> [laughter] >> person or not. Doug, I can't believe you read it. Come on, Doug. That was the best part. Oh my goodness. Doug's going to get me kicked off the air. >> [laughter] >> They're like, where was the violation? Right here. Exactly. All right, while I'm waiting for him to come in or she or she to come in, let's do the last giveaway that I just talked about uh from metal detecting shop.com, the triple score metal detector, over a $500 machine that I can almost guarantee you're going to find incredible pieces of treasure wherever you live in the world. >> Jam, if you're still in there, put #treasure. Jam Jam, get it in there, man. I'm telling you. You're only eligible, Jam. Yes, yes. You are eligible. Everyone's eligible except for us three and unfortunately the moderators, but they all have one. You know, they they I know they have All right, so Doug, we're going to do another one. All three of us combined. This is a big one. Good luck, everybody, for the big triple score detector bundle. Let's go. Drum roll, please. >> [laughter] >> All right. My my throat's getting sore now. Good luck. >> [sighs] >> two Rachel Mascota. I DON'T RECOGNIZE THE NAME. OH my gosh, I just saw another super chat go by with a question. Did you Was it Okay, let me say Rachel Muscado, you got it. Um listen, you got uh 60 seconds to get your name your zip code in the chat. Let me know you're here. My moderators are watching for you. If not, we're going to give it away to someone else. So, please 60 seconds. There was another super chat while we're waiting from Shawn Lucas. Is Emma going to give her kids bear spray? What I I'm sensing there's an inside joke to this. So, in Dillon, Montana, while we were you know, when Jeff and I were new new to YouTube and new to Beyond the Maps Edge, everybody was really new to Beyond the Maps Edge. And when Justin announced that he was doing this book signing, I said to Jeff, I said, "Let's do this. Let's go. And I'm going to interview every person who stands in line." What I didn't know is that there was 1,600 people that were coming to get their books signed. Oh my goodness. And I brought prizes. We brought t-shirts from Salt Face Mule, which is this amazing hunt-friendly uh brewery up in Asheville area. Um we brought shovels, which turns out you're not allowed to dig in a lot of places in Montana. I hope nobody used them. We bought bear spray. And Shawn Lucas is fantastic. He's got these cute two cute little kids. I don't want to say their names just in case they don't want to you know, he doesn't want that known. But I walked up to him and interviewed him. I'm like, "How long you been a hunter?" And then I said, "Can I give them a present?" And I come running back and I have bear spray. And I'm like, "Oh, I'm just going to hand this kid bear spray." And I think about it for a second. I'm like, "Can I give your child bear spray?" It's just not something you think you're going to give a kid. But I gave about a 12-year-old bear spray. And so >> [laughter] >> We make fun of me. I give bear spray to kids. Yeah, I mean, as long as the nozzle's facing away from them, they should be fine. I think that kid is so ready to be out in the wilderness. He doesn't need me. He's got his own little bear spray. >> the pin to release it. I've never I've never used bear spray. I've never >> bought it. I've worn it on my hip like I was cool, but I've never used it. >> Yeah. I've never used it either. I What What are the funny parts of that um uh Netflix series, um Cynthia shot herself in the groin with with the bear spray. And she said that hurt. Oh, she tells that story in person. I've seen her wear those pants. But she tells that story in person and she's like, "I had to still hunt." I'm like, "Your crotch had to be on fire." And she's like, "Oh, it was." I would have loved to have met her. She's like a firecracker. She would have been such a fun person. Yeah, I mean, listen She's going to be there. Listen, guys, you can go uh that there's still tickets available. Uh I'm Let me Let me see. I have the live website up open over here. Let me see how many you're up to uh um Oh, good question. >> me see. Was that 800 when I sat down? So, let's see where we're at now. We're close to a couple You have eight days left to go before you come in. >> I Come on, guys. There's still 800. >> We're going to get it. I have a bet with Justin Posey that I'm going to hit 2,000. I hope you do. I hope you do. Someone might step in and buy 500 tickets just to unlock the next milestone. >> Well, I mean, there's the colleges right there, too. And it's like they they may or may not know. And like I'm going to go there and I'm going to tell I'm going to get there Tuesday night. And I'm going to just Start putting flyers out. >> Be more boots on the ground, but for like collection instead of trying you know, different kind of collecting. So, I'm going to get some people out there. This military base There's a lot of people. There's Zeus's father again. Zeus, I mean, come on. You're going to go broke. Save some money to buy Justin's book at the event. >> [laughter] >> I I don't know if you got the email. quarterhoarder@yahoo.com is my is my email. Um I don't have it open right now, but if you send me that picture, I'll put it up next week. I'd love to see your your super fancy leather white feathered cowboy hat with all all that cool stuff. I don't even know what that means. Um I'm not sure. But listen, we're going to get ready to wrap up soon, Doug. I at least want to get Emma out of here. I know she's got to go live again tomorrow. She went live yesterday. Uh of course I got to reiterate the whole point of the show, the Seeker Summit metal detecting metal detecting I'm sorry. Treasure Hunt Convention next weekend. >> This was in Tues in Tucson, Arizona, right? Tucson, Arizona. The metal detecting world will be represented. That's what I was trying to say. >> Absolutely. Between Nokta Detectors, our good friend Mark, who was a huge supporter of the show, gave all a bunch of prizes away. He will be there. >> so generous. Mark is so generous. Super good guy. Uh Ryan from metaldetectingshop.com will also be there. Donated a prize today. Super generous. Uh both of them can answer any questions if any of the treasure hunt community is interested in metal detecting to add that extra layer. Because some of these places, hey, while you're out searching for the treasure, maybe you swing the detector along the way and you might not find Justin's, but maybe you'll find old silver coins and gold and rings and jewelry. It's the It's a frontier of detecting that you can do in your own backyard and find treasure. So, I recommend that everybody to give it a shot uh if you've never done it before. Uh Nicolina will be there from the metal detecting world. >> to meet her. Part of Beyond Oak Island. Uh really nice person, too. Super duper smart, too. Wait till you see her. She's like a I forget what Mark said. She's like a physicist or some crazy thing like that. Uh and then of course all of the people associated with the treasure hunt. Uh Justin and Scott, the director of the show, Jared, Cynthia, so many other people that I'm just not familiar with yet. And if I would go, I'm sure we'd leave with a ton of friends there. That's the beauty of these things. Thank you very much. It was a great show. I want to thank Emma once again not only for coming in, but for picking up the slack of Justin wasn't able to make it. I can't tell you >> me owes me. Don't worry. I will make sure he does. >> Yes, I really appreciate you coming on spending so much time. I'll let you go so your throat is done. And I'll make sure to mention it again on our next week's show to pick up those tickets, the Seeker Summit. >> So much. >> I hope it's super duper successful. And I can't wait to see all the videos of how it turned out. Thank you so much for having me. Have a great day, guys. Thank you, Emma. Emma, you have a good one. Bye-bye. All right, Doug. There it is. The Seeker Summit event. I'm really excited. I wish it was any other weekend because the one event that you know, we don't like to miss, the Show Me Hunt, I couldn't miss that for the world. But uh and the Show Me Hunt sold out. So, it's not like I feel like there's competition at this point. >> Right. Right. >> Now, if you you know, if you're a detectorist and you didn't get your tickets to Show Me, go out to the Seeker Summit. Listen, you're going to meet some great people. You're going to have a lot of fun. You might win tens of thousands of dollars. And you might get clues to get the two million dollars. So, um I'm I'm super excited. Brie, come on. Brie's not Brie's not supposed to send me super chats. Nokta rocks, period. Good luck at your event, Emma. Looking forward to seeing you soon, Jason and Doug. Thank you. Yes, Brie will be out for our coming up event, Doug. Come out swinging. Pretty soon. >> We had Robert on. Yes, Brie will be up on the stage with us giving out some prizes. I can't wait to see her event. I don't think we've seen her in over a year. So, that's going to be really exciting. Uh I don't know uh Brie if we heard from all the ticket winners, especially the last one that had the goofy name. Um We give what we could. Hopefully they they'll reach out. I'm glad we got some people that are picking them up. And I believe all of the physical prizes were claimed. And they all had US zip codes. So, they'll all be going out between uh Ryan and Mark uh in the next couple of days. Make sure you email me quarterhoarder@yahoo.com uh name, address, phone number, and I will forward them to the right people. Woo. All right, Doug. That's pretty good. A day full of treasure. Um you know, a little bit of a snafu with Justin's flight. Yeah, a little auspicious start, but uh got through it. I'm surprised he even I'm surprised he even said this was a good day for him knowing he was like knowing he was like landing from one flight going to to another. I could have did it tomorrow or something. Yeah. But I'm But I'm glad he made it. It was uh it was uh super nice to meet him. Um So, what what do you think of the whole thing, Doug? Buying this book, trying to interpret uh the puzzles and riddles to possibly find million dollars in uh in treasure. Make Maybe we can have him on in a you know, like a month or so after this event. And you know, really sit down and ask him some of the questions he was unable to answer because he was on the run. So. I'm sure he's super busy. I mean, with the event coming up next week. Yes. >> what I said. In in a month or two, you know, maybe. We'll have him on for a full interview to get even more questions about his hunt. Oh, thanks, Sue. Sue Ramsey said, "Did your son make it to Japan safely?" Yes, he did. He's got two or three more days. You know what he's doing today, Doug? Um See if he won the contest. No, no, no. You know how like over here like if business people No, no, he's a business major. So, he's going there for like a his senior uh it's part of a class. But you know over here like business is done like on the golf course, you know, you golf and you're Well, over there, they have these like I call it a bathhouse. That's probably not the right name. >> geisha house. It's a It's a house where it's like these giant steam rooms. And everyone goes in and you get you strip down naked. And you have communications with other people in the nude in these things. And I forget the name of it in Japanese. And I said, "Wow, you're really going to do that?" And he's like, "Yeah, I want to experience everything that they do." So >> Yeah. They They They like to see how they measure up with the competition. He's more open than me. I'd be so so uh nervous about that. And I forget the That's such a weird Everything over there is just so Their culture is so different than ours. But yes, he's having the time of his life over there. So, that's that's super exciting. FLX Detectorist, thank you John. We got to see him at Dig Stock, we mentioned uh last week. Um, we're going to we're going to get ready to wrap this up though, Doug. My throat is sore, sore, sore. Um, I want to thank all the moderators for really working overtime today. They got a workout today, didn't they? Yes, I mean, they were texting me the whole time, keeping me updated with who was there, who was not. Um, so I want to thank them again. Oh, and Bree's right, it's called an onsen. Bree is 100% right. Onsen. The Japanese thing that my son's doing, an onsen. And he said it like so matter-of-factly, like, "What are you talking about, Dad? You never heard of an onsen?" I had no [clears throat] idea what that was, but yes, but I want to thank Bree, Metal Bree Tecturist, for not only giving me the Japanese naked bathhouse answer, but for moderating all of the the winners today. Yes, thank you very much. Uh, Chris Wicked Digger, another moderator, thank you for all your help tonight. Uh, Hot Mess Fishin, Alicia, thank you very much. And of course, Teresa the Treasure Hunter. Yep. >> Thank you guys for all the help, you know, there was I think there was I don't even know how many prizes there were with some people that weren't able to accept the tickets, maybe over 10 drawings today, which just at some point got whoa, a little a little overwhelming. Uh, I want to thank again, Mark and Nokta Detectors for donating the AccuPoint, the Pulse Dive, the Find X Pro, and everything he does. They've been very generous. Always, always. I don't think Mark's ever told me no, ever. Um, which is surprising, Doug. So, I want to thank Mark and Nokta. And of course, I want to thank Ryan from metaldetectingshop.com uh, for generously throwing in the triple score last minute. Yeah. So, and making a a grandiose prize, so thank you again. Uh, if you need any gear, Doug, make sure you check out metaldetectingshop.com and support the people that support us. Yep. Um, otherwise, I'll say a couple of hellos to the chat and then I want to get out of here. I know there was 600 or so, now it's whittling down, it's getting late. 300. >> but Barry Casey, crazy crazy digging, Wendy Olson, uh, Mike Bomhoff, former winner, Mike Bomhoff. Uh, Eric the Cape Cod Father is here, our good friend. Wish Upon a Beep. Again, FLX Detector John, Sue Ramsey, Lindiana Jones, who we gave a shoutout to earlier. There's our good Lynn. Who is going to be out at the um I forget the name of Honeybrook, Albersen. I think you're Oh, I got it. Look at that, Doug. Look how fast I can be. The Albersen Antique Show this weekend. Yep. >> want to get out there and support Lynn. Uh, Tommy Herring is here. 71 Vega Dave, thank you. Again, Nokta Mark, who was here with her all night long, I think. All night long. Metal Detecting Shop again, all night long. Thank you. Hanging out. Amanda Collins. Yes, 3D Bronze. Next time, what's this one? Next time you interview John Collins Black let me know and I will send you some replica Oh, that's very nice of you. Thank you, 3D Bronze. I meant to reach out to John to do a follow-up. I'll probably do it another maybe 2 months. I wanted to do it like the 6-month mark, but I will. Thank you very much. If you can email me your contact info, I'll do that and we'll plug your stuff. Uh, I really appreciate it. Quarter Hoarder, yahoo.com. Thank you. Uh, Boo Monster, thank you for mentioning my question. Was just being silly. Listen, when I do this, I say it, you know, to my moderators, I've got six monitors going on with windows and giveaways. If I see a question, I just throw it up and ask it, and sometimes the question isn't pertinent, sometimes it's about a conversation within the chat. Uh, it's really tough. But thank you very much. Uh, Magic Man Texas is in there says That's not it, that's Lynn. Will there be a show next week? No, no Thursday show next week. Doug and I will be traveling. Yeah, we'll be at the Missouri hunt. Yeah. Um, so no, no show next week, but we'll be back the following with a I have no guest schedule for the following, so we could talk about the last couple of videos, as well as all the shenanigans from the Missouri hunt. So, but no, next week, uh, fortunately, no, we'll be we'll be traveling again. Uh, Come Out Swinging, then we see see you at COS. Yes, Come Out Swinging will be coming up soon, too, the second weekend of April. There are still tickets available. Come Out Swinging. So, if you want to meet me and Doug and Rich and Charlie and Lynn and Jessica and Matt and Metal Bree Tecturist and everybody, make sure you come out. You got to go to the Come Out Swinging Facebook page. I don't have that linked available right now. It was in last week's episode. There are still tickets. I'd love to see you and hang out and get you in the video. Hopefully, they'll find something good. Uh, will you and the crew be at the Techny Heartland this year? Yes, I believe so. I still I haven't gotten the tickets yet because I was waiting for one last piece from Casey, but I believe we got the nod. I will I'm 99% sure that we will be there. 99.3% sure we will be there. Uh, but Doug, we're going to wrap it up. I'm really tired, my throat is sore. I'll give you your last words of the day before we get out of here. Um, my throat is sore, also. You did a great job considering the word we got 5 minutes before we went on the air that Justin may be late because he's jumping >> Listen. plane to plane and Listen, Doug, I'll give you a little bit of an insider thing that I do. Be professional. >> I and I blame nobody for this. Things happen. But whenever I have a guest come on, >> [clears throat] >> I always say, "Are you 125% sure you'll be there?" And in this case, you know, Emma contacted me to have Justin come on. So, then there was like an intermediary, and I'm like, "Emma, are you 197% sure he's going to be there?" And Emma's like, "Yes, yes, I'll have Justin text you right now to confirm." >> [snorts] >> Now, things happen. It was it's out of control. Yep. But my one biggest stress thing in doing this is when you have a a guest come on and the guest doesn't show up. >> be there. We've had issues with the time zones before, so now I'm meticulous with emailing them, "It's 7:15 my time. You live here. Here's a map. It would be 5:15 your time." You know, like baby baby arms to make sure it doesn't happen again. Today was just listen, you know, flights are late, that's how it works. No one's no one's fault. But that snafu threw me for for quite a you know >> A loop, yeah. a loop in the last second when I had the whole outline of questions structured for John. But Emma really really did step in. She was amazing, so I want to really thank her. Without her, the show would have come to a grinding halt. She really stepped up. Yeah, she did. Uh, she did a great job and that's why I know this Secret Summer event is going to be fantastic. All right, Doug, I'm going to get out of here. My throat really is sore. Again, thank you all my moderators. Thank you to Nokta. Thank you to metaldetectingshop.com. Thank you to Justin and Emma. Thank you to Dog Take Dog for hanging in there all night long. You're right, I just thought of it and I did and look, I instantly get yelled at for it. >> [laughter] >> Um, yes, and again, no show next week, we're back in 2 weeks, same bat time, same bat channel. Uh, there will be of course the Tuesday episodes we'll keep pumping out. So, we're out of here for the week. Thank you everybody for hanging in all night long. Thank you for watching, listening, participating. And Yes, and hey, we will see you on the next one. Later. See you.