Session notes · 2026-09-09

Tonight's research

Breakthrough: Whole No. 42. Dad-era True West, the poem's bride, and why Posey says people don't think the way he does. Field theater is Beaverhead County — magazines name the country, not the last thousand yards. Book and ARKADE jackets: every cover. Images he uploaded (Fenn box, Tucker, truck): Posted. Slow clue pass, pictures, directions, and night landscape log: the book.

Breakthrough · 2026-09-09

Whole No. 42

A child puts this together.

4-over-2 on the truck is 42. Poem word 42 is Hole — walk past it. Dad’s True West Whole No. 42 is the Nov–Dec 1960 pulp that sits Grasshopper gold next to a bride. Same number, three places, in plain sight.

Two Guides. Hitchhiker’s Guide: 42 is the Answer you already have. American Treasure Hunter’s Guide is sold in the same True West Whole No. 42 — land treasures in many states. 42 names the Guide. The American one is Dad’s magazine. Consecutive: stanza 2 (Hole) then stanza 3 (bride) live in that binding.

The clue: Hitchhiker’s Guide (42 is the Answer) and American Treasure Hunter’s Guide (sold in Mag 42). Two Guides. 42 names the one you already have.

Truck

4 stacked over 2. Dark Matters: Hitchhiker’s Guide. Summit: 42 is relevant. Two Guides: Hitchhiker’s + American Treasure Hunter’s Guide in Mag 42.

Poem

Word 42 is Hole. Round the bend, past the Hole. Walk past it.

Pulp

Whole No. 42 — Gold on the Grasshopper + Buffalo Hunter’s Bride. Childhood reading.

True West (Western Publications, 1953 series) Issue #42 = November 1960 / Nov–Dec 1960 = v8n2. mycomicshop lists it as Issue #42. Our dump is 1960-12-v08n02 (unz.org).

Left taillight 4 stacked over 2. He answered as 42 — Hitchhiker’s Guide, then Summit: yes, relevant. Poem word 42 is Hole. Walk past it. Same 42 is this magazine: the December True West a ten-year-old studied, with Grasshopper gold on the water he already walked sitting a bride pulp in the same binding.

Southwestern Montana water — Grasshopper Creek, Bannack, Dillon citizens, Beaverhead. Number one solve: after you walk past the Hole, Buffalo Head in the East Pioneers and Queen of the Hills as his bride — the hill, not the mine. Magazine names the country. Last yards are granite after you return her face.

Also in that issue

  • Billy the Kid’s Funeral (Lea McCarty)
  • This Was Tombstone!
  • The Indian War Nobody Knows (Robert Mikkelsen)
  • The Man Who Lived With Grizzlies
  • Tom Horn Was a Hero or a Villain?

Not

  • Not Bannack State Park as the hide (fee / structure)
  • Not a pin on Grasshopper Creek
  • Not clock 4:02 / Lost / Bible / 42 Hz
  • Not the 1960 pulp woman as the poem’s bride
  • Not a GPS. 42 remains the Hole you walk past
  • Not Hitchhiker’s as a coordinate — it names the Guide. The American Treasure Hunter’s Guide is the one in Mag 42. Surviving copy of that exact title not recovered, so no pin from its list

Number one solve · Notes · Truck stills · True West Whole No. 42 · dump id 1960-12-v08n02

Official site — treasure.quest

Pulled 2026-09-07. Source. Social that is not also here is not a hunt clue.

Anything mentioned on social media that is not also posted on this website will not help anyone with the treasure hunt. He will never divulge information privately that will help anyone find the treasure.

Start: Map on entry → American West. Watch Gold & Greed (clues in the documentary). Book has more clues and the who/what/where/why.

Poem: The poem that contains all essential clues is free on the site. The book is not required but many will find it enhances understanding.

Chest: 60 lb. PAMP kilos, flakes, dust; emeralds, rubies, amethysts; historical artifacts (Kushan, Crusades, Byzantine, Buyid, Lydian ~561 BC); meteorite; Bitcoin wallet that grows with book sales.

Hunt items are not

  • underwater
  • on private property
  • in caves, mines, tunnels
  • at places that need rappelling
  • associated with any man-made buildings
  • near graves or grave markers
  • in dangerous places

Hunt items are

  • More than 1 mile from anywhere Justin, family, or friends live, work, or own (including businesses).
  • On publicly accessible land anyone can visit
  • Safe to get to

You don't need: Climbing gear or ropes; Permission for private land; Swimming skills; Ladders or climbing skills; A high-clearance vehicle.

Legal (2025-09-21): During 2023 he intentionally abandoned certain property at an undisclosed location in the western United States. Search at your own risk. Land status can change. Governed by Wyoming law; exclusive venue Wyoming courts.

Safety (2025-03-27): Ten essentials (nav, sun, insulation, light, first aid, fire, repair, food, water, shelter) plus PLB, tell someone your plan, turn around if weather/injury/unsafe.

Announcements (newest first)

2026-07-27 · link

Meet & Greet — Grasshopper Inn, Polaris, Montana

On September 12th I'll be attending the Meet & Greet at the Grasshopper Inn in Polaris, Montana, hosted by Ema & Jam of Treasure Hunt With Us. Precise verb: attending. They host. Tickets on Eventbrite. He will shake hands. Not a clue dump.

2026-05-02 · link

On the timing of cipher guidance

The aired cipher was harder than designed: two extra clocks hid that a subset was needed; MAGYAR also anagrams to MARGAY (wildcat), a coincidence not a trap. Broad public correction after a seven-figure audience would have been a same-day swarm-solve. Guidance: “less is better” at month seven, then six clocks at Seekers Summit 28 Mar 2026. Full essay + probability appendix on-site. Cipher still does not locate the chest.

2026-04-28 · link

The cipher has been solved — MAGYAR

Team Misfits (Rose and Mooshee) first to bring a correct solution. Clock cipher → GRYAMA → MAGYAR (Magyar Vizsla). Netflix sent six times; two extra clocks aired unannounced. Solving the cipher does not bring anyone closer to the treasure — not a step. Nod to the vessel. Expect fake finds. AI image analysis is a marginal edge he does not believe will be decisive. He will never confirm poem clues until the chest is in someone's hands. Hunt sharply. Hunt safely. Trust your own eyes.

2026-03-31

Seekers Summit Q&A posted

Watch: https://youtu.be/4cjpymh2LXc

2026-03-18 · link

Treasure Hunt With Us — Seekers Summit

March 27–28 Tucson Expo Center. Bring something to write on. Q&A on the 28th uses upvotes.

2026-03-17 · link

X Marks the Pod

With Bruce On The Ground, Megan, and Jawz.

2026-02-09 · link

Seekers Summit reminder

March 27–28 Tucson Expo Center. $25 adults, $15 under 21. Capacity limited.

2026-02-06 · link

One Clue Short interview

Discussion of Beyond the Map's Edge.

2026-02-04 · link

This Is Love — Episode 131

Phoebe Judge (Criminal / Vox). Fenn chase as a love story. Not a location dump.

2026-01-17

Seekers Summit — Tucson

First time Lou, Sherri, Cynthia, and Justin in one room since Netflix. G&G director/producer. Chad Bird. Live skill hunt $10–20K. Guinness attempt.

2026-01-02 · link

A Gypsy's Kiss live (Jan 7)

Toby Younis interview.

2025-10-26 · link

Deleted scenes (not treasure)

The Bubble Bust and The Rookie Roadster PDFs. “These will not help you find the treasure.”

2025-10-17

Technical clue solved + On AI

ARKADE “Beyond the Map's Edge” 2:57–3:00 at 22,050 Hz: “The key to one direction lies in another.” Optional expert mode. Only time he would confirm a clue until the chest is found (later MAGYAR confirmation is because it does not locate). Do not train custom AI on the book and poem. Use AI to research and check work; leave the solving to yourself.

2025-06

Audiobook, Dillon signing, second printing

Audiobook at shop.treasure.quest (bonus chapter + limited music). Book signing The Bookstore, Dillon, 21 Jun 2025. Second hardcover printing only corrects errata (round sticker / copyright page).

2025-04-08

Counterfeit books

Official purchase links only. Counterfeits already circulating.

2025-04-02

No private answers

Not answering privately. Will not confirm or deny any solution. When you find it, instructions are with it. MW Six Questions linked.

2025-03-31

Launch FAQ (announcements)

No advanced degree. If you know where to go, buried vs not wouldn't matter. Nothing dangerous. Map is useful. Poem in entirety → exact location. Don't need to hike more than a mile to figure out where it is. Steward has other items for the finder. Access 24/7 as of 31 Mar 2025 8:10pm CT. LLC Wyoming from day one. Avoid snow/bitter cold. Coins mostly 1 oz+; container filled to the gills. Bitcoin: finder must come forward in the 30-day window.

How he thinks

American Treasure podcast, Episode 5 (Dave Colonna)

The bad part is that it's all in my mind, so what might be very obvious, or a clear set of steps and clues in my mind, might be totally crazy in another person's mind. And I heavily suspect that no matter what solution comes out in the end, there will be people that will be disappointed because they just don't think that way.

He kept the poem in one head so nobody had a head start. The cost: a chain that is obvious to him can look crazy to Fenn-style or Wikipedia-style solvers. Later he added extra paths “to accommodate how different people think,” plus a checkpoint — the core is still his. Poem last stanza: not clever minds, not tangled finds.

Open transcripts →

Dad's magazines (the book)

Dad's House chapter · ~age 10

This grand plan materialized in a collection of his old adventure magazines from the 1960s and 70s with titles like True West and Old Frontier, plus a wobbling stack of dog-eared Hardy Boys books… The interesting thing to my ten-year-old brain was that most of the lost treasures detailed in their pages were still open cases… I spent weeks in my room studying them like a detective working his first big case.

There is no magazine titled Old Frontier. He is remembering the sister stack printed on every True West cover: True West, Frontier Times, Old West. Book photos 013/014 are desert hikes, not magazine covers. The yellow pulps are 1960s–70s Joe Small issues — not the modern Netflix-shelf copies.

The Gold & Greed bookcase is fourteen spines added as hints: Grandpa Fitzwater's Posey Press warden book, Tucson Baldy as home tragedy, Fenn / Victorio Peak as origin. Dutchman and Tombstone are the hunts he holds up so you will not walk them. Da Vinci and Hiram Key are look-closer. Read each spine as a hint — do not GPS the name on the cover.

Whole No. 42 of Dad's stack is the Nov–Dec 1960 True West (v8n2): Gold on the Grasshopper sits Buffalo Hunter's Bride in the same binding. That is also the 4-over-2 on the truck and poem word 42 (Hole). Childhood magazine. Country, not a pin.

Full spine-by-spine read →

If you knew where to go it wouldn't matter

Buried vs not is not a clue · Hiram Key is method

Asked if the chest is buried, he repeated: if you know where to go, it wouldn't matter either way. Metal detector: probably not. Last ten yards is seeing on granite, not a shovel rule and not a vault from The Hiram Key.

He was a 32° Mason, then demitted. Hunt needs no lodge secrets — poem plus web search. The paperback on the shelf means: the key is already in the ceremony you were given. That ceremony is the consecutive poem. Do not excavate Rosslyn.

Later Zoom bookcase (Este's Quest room, not the G&G wall) has a standing cream paper on the top shelf and a framed print on the door. Unidentified at this resolution. Trains on top = railroad parents. Do not GPS a 270-pixel still.

See-it-don't-dig-it solve →

Two hints on the back of the truck

Gold & Greed outdoor B-roll

A kid's drawing, consecutive. Left taillight: 4 stacked over 2. He answered as 42 — Hitchhiker's Guide, then Summit: yes, relevant. Poem word 42 is Hole. Same 42 is Dad's True West Whole No. 42 (Nov–Dec 1960). Walk past the Hole. Not clock 4:02. Not Bannack as a pin.

Rear glass: three mountain-like humps in the same dust language. That is her foot of three — a granite profile you can see, then return her face. Dead limbs off a broken trunk make the same silhouette. Not three named peaks. Not an X on a boulder.

Topo wrap and the Beast itself are Fenn costume — you don't need a high-clearance vehicle. Tailgate packs Waterton (Canada candy) next to Fenn's book. Those are not the two hints.

Truck stills and mark-by-mark →

Issues that matter

1960-12

True West Whole No. 42 — Nov–Dec 1960 (v8n2) — Gold on the Grasshopper + Buffalo Hunter’s Bride

Western Publications 1953 series, Issue #42 (mycomicshop: November 1960). Our dump is 1960-12-v08n02. Same number as the 4-over-2 on the truck and poem word 42 (Hole).

Dad’s True West stack is in the book. Whole No. 42 is the December issue a ten-year-old could have pulled: Grasshopper gold on southwestern Montana water sits a bride pulp in the same binding. Magazine names the country, not a pin. 42 on the truck is this issue and the Hole you walk past.

  • Gold on the Grasshopper!. John White scratches Grasshopper Creek. Bannack springs up — first capital of Montana Territory. Dillon citizens later restore the sagging town. Henry Plummer. Virginia City, Deer Lodge, Nevada City. Beaverhead Museum in Dillon holds Plummer’s Colt. Closing line in the dump: gold in the grassroots, gold on the Grasshopper.
  • Buffalo Hunter’s Bride. Molly Madden pulp. Ellis, Kansas — the bride who would not be separated from her husband. Magazine gives the word. Justin: depends how you define alive — on the ground she is a mountain (Buffalo Head / Queen of the Hills), not Mary Jordan as the hide.
  • Grasshopper Creek, southwestern Montana
  • Bannack (first Montana capital)
  • Dillon (citizens restored Bannack)
  • Virginia City / Deer Lodge / Nevada City
  • Ellis, Kansas (the bride story itself — not the hide)

Place to go: Childhood reading. Country the ten-year-old already walked — not Bannack State Park as the hide (structures / fees). 42 remains the Hole you walk past. Number one solve: Buffalo Head / Queen of the Hills after the Hole.

Open the dump →

1966-08

True West Jul–Aug 1966 (v13n6) Special Treasure Issue — Big Hole Battle

A True West issue in the era Dad collected. Names the Big Hole fight. The poem says past the Hole. He has not named this battlefield as the hide — and NPS fee/structure would kill it anyway.

  • Trail Creek mouth, Big Hole Basin
  • Big Hole National Battlefield (~10 miles west of Wisdom)
  • Wisdom, Montana (old Wisdom River = today's Big Hole)

Place to go: Do not cache on the NPS battlefield (fee / structure). Poem says past the Hole. Number one solve walks past it toward Buffalo Head.

Open the dump →

1971-04

True West Mar–Apr 1971 (v18n4) — woman who watches a lost mine

Best wording match to “stands guard”: a mysterious woman watches over a lost mine on a mountain in the San Francisco Peaks. Officially not the hide — mines/tunnels are out. Image that transfers: a female form on a mountain at a pass.

  • San Francisco Peaks / Flagstaff, Arizona (guardian story)
  • Bear Mountain, Grant County, New Mexico (Avery silver — Dad's home region, not the pin)

Place to go: Do not go to a mine. FAQ: not a structure, not a mine/cave/tunnel.

Bride — what Justin has said

Magazines give the word. They do not name the poem's bride as a historical woman.

Is “return her face” the bride?

He almost answered, then punted because it “might give away too much.” Seekers Summit / Dark Matters cluster.

Has the bride ever been alive?

“Depends how you define the term alive.” Rules out a simple historical woman from a 1960 pulp.

Has anyone correctly identified the bride?

Yes (Seekers Summit, 28 Mar 2026).

Does “her face” belong to the bride?

He said two readings exist, then: fair to say yes.

Does “return her face” mean a physical rotation?

Yes (technically).

When is boots-on-the-ground required?

Stanza 4 — Double arcs on granite.

Return her face — the turn

Summit: return her face is a physical rotation. Her face belongs to the bride.

We turned the plates he printed. Cabin 180: the hang on the white door goes ears-up. Cover 180: the woman in the tear goes upside down — do not flip the book; returning her there is seeing her in the landscape. ARKADE and the meadow still: still a back. A file with no face cannot be rotated into one. That turn is on the ground, short, local.

Cabin hang — 180°

Cabin hang — 180° as printed
As printed
Cabin hang — 180° after 180°
180°

As printed: two points down (waders / a dead rabbit). After the turn: ears up. The trout is the hat.

Cover — 180° (do not use)

Cover — 180° (do not use) as printed
As printed
Cover — 180° (do not use) after 180°
180°

Her face is already right-reading on the published cover. 180 inverts her. See the woman in the tear; do not turn the book over.

ARKADE — 180° still a back

ARKADE — 180° still a back as printed
As printed
ARKADE — 180° still a back after 180°
180°

No front was photographed. Walk around the thing until the face looks at you.

Angzarr

Seekers Summit Q&A — 28 Mar 2026

You have said there are no clues in the legal section. Is it correct then that the angzarr is not a clue?

The angzarr in The Legal Lowdown can be ruled out. That specific symbol in that chapter is not a clue.

X Dark Matters — 4 Sep 2025

Is your logo inspired by the angzarr symbol?

Yes. He chose and modified it intentionally.

Legal-page glyph is out as a location clue. Logo was inspired by it. ARKADE words are public; he said no to azimuth. He has not specified cover art as a clue.

Not a trip plan

Base: Grandpa Wayne Fitzwater was the Beaverhead game warden, Dillon. Childhood summers. Not a published search base.

Walk: He has not published a walk. Maverick Mountain at Polaris is “my why” — childhood, not a hide claim. Official: American West, public 24/7 no fee.

Hole: The poem says past the Hole. He has not named which Hole. Truck 42 is poem-word Hole and Dad’s True West Whole No. 42 — the magazine, not a GPS.

Local True West dump: Desktop\true-west-1955-2003 (234 PDFs, ~6 GB)

Gracie’s $6 map — not confirmed as the Steck sheet

Unconfirmed analog: 1860 two-panel Apache Agency manuscript (Steck papers, UNM CSWR MSS 134). Not identified as the map he bought.

Bought: Book: Gracie’s Antiques, Dillon, MT — $6 late-nineteenth-century hand-drawn map. Apache territories, Dragoon Mountains in trembling lines, creases from folding. He still unfolds it. He never printed the sheet.

Where: The book names Dragoon Mountains on the $6 sheet. It does not identify which manuscript, which labels, or a pin.

The Steck sheet, as scanned, has inverted Dragoon labels. That is a different object until he says otherwise. Gracie’s “lift and turn” is spoken as he wrestles the shop door — not confirmed as a rotation of this analog.

Lookalike only — not the shop map

Steck Apache Agency two-panel — unconfirmed analog, not his shop map
Analog only · not confirmed
Same Steck sheet rotated 180° — still not his map
Analog turned · not his
Steck Dragoon panel rotated so the name reads — not a confirmed return-her-face on his sheet
Not confirmed as his
Steck Mogollon panel — not confirmed as his map
Not confirmed as his

Not the hide: Cochise Stronghold is a fee campground with mines in the range — official hide kills, whether or not his map names the Dragoons.

Keep the shop purchase. Drop the analog as his map. Do not treat Arizona / Stronghold as the chest.

UNM Steck sheet → · Places atlas · Book planted object

The Indian Head on the Mountain; The Guardian of Shoshone Cove

1915 postcard (Laura Tolman Scott, Armstead)

Where: East end of Horse Prairie, ~2 miles west of Clark Canyon Reservoir’s west shore, above Horse Prairie Creek. View from MT-324. Armstead / Camp Fortunate are under the lake.

Pin: 44.98464 N, 112.94058 W — USGS Indian Head, Garfield Canyon quad, 6,398 ft

It guards the gateway to Horse Prairie, named Shoshone Cove by Captain Lewis. Classic face and beckoning arm. Lewis camped in 1805 at the junction of the streams just beneath the head.

A named guardian face on a postcard he cares about. Teach the kind of seeing. Do not treat the hill as the hide unless the consecutive poem puts you there — he has not said that it does.

Netflix book-flip

Gold & Greed E2 Down the Rabbit Hole (watch/81674803)

Page 1: Forest creek, torn-edge print. Guard’s head left, woman’s face in the canopy, bear below on the right, river in the lower half. Subtitle: where warm waters halt. Not Doolittle. Creek not identified.

Page 2: Canyon looking down. Face in the pale right-hand wall. Subtitle: take it in the canyon down. Not Mesa Ruins. Canyon not identified.

Production stills that train shadowed sight / return her face / ursa / guard — the same move the 1915 card names in words.

Pre-hunt Posey, meteor, human solve →